Can't open system recovery?

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  1. Posts : 42
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #91

    Alright, so the windows 7 starter installed successfully, and I downloaded the network driver from the 1010. The background image is just black, and the only desktop icon is the recycle bin. I think I am still missing a few files or drivers.

    To clear things up with the recovery stuff:
    My desktop (Main workstation) no longer has the HP_Recovery data, because I accidentally formatted the drive.
    My HP mini 1010 has already created the recovery media once, so it won't let me create it again.
    My 16 GB usb has the windows 7 installation on it.
    My 4 GB usb has partition wizard on it.
    Roxio is not on any of my machines.
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  2. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #92

    Nah, the Win7 install should have loaded all the necessary files to boot up.

    Your 1071 drive sb two partitions (100 or 200 MB sysres and the rest allocated to C: (boot, page, crash dump...)

    Please run a BIOS disk test and also post a pic of dsk mgmtn.

    While that's running, use the 101 to download Quickweb from HP.

    Compare your 1010 and 1071 BIOS settings. What I read about the mini is that it expects to boot into quickweb and the switch over to Windows.
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  3. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #93

    Ummm, I guess you can't get a Disk Mngmt screenshot.

    What happens if you click on the Recycle bin?

    What happens if you hit the Windows Key? (spacebar row of the keybd with the windows logo on it)

    If all else fails, boot with the Win7 stick and get to command prompt

    diskpart
    lis dis
    sel dis # (where # is your HD)
    det dis
    lis par

    sel par 1
    det par
    det vol

    sel par 2
    det par
    det vol

    exit

    Drive letter of par 1 from diskpart
    for example f: (could be c: )

    cd \
    dir /a
    exit


    do a few commands at a time and snap a picture, post the results.

    Thanks
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  4. Posts : 42
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #94

    Here is the disk management of the 1071


    Here's the 1010's


    The recycle bin is the usual recycle bin, so is the windows key (opens the menu).
    Here are all programs in the windows menu.


    Something I forgot to mention earlier is that when I was following this tutorial, I skipped step 14, because I didn't want to remove the service cover while the computer was on. I thought that I would be able to activate it afterwards. When I ran Windows Anytime Upgrade, I entered the product key, but it said
    Enter a different upgrade key

    The upgrade key you entered is for an edition of Windows that does not work with Windows Anytime Upgrade. Enter a different upgrade key.
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  5. Posts : 21,004
    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #95

    Now I see the problem has been fixed and as I said about that Ubuntu stick now might be a good time to make one in case you go south again maybe even clone / image that dive to an external drive.

    In any event I would -personally of course - make a note of the activation code it will be on the sticker or find it through Speccy or SIW and reload the 7 using this Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 that way you can have bloat free 7 on the machine and repatriate the data from the external drive afterwarsds and still have the original stuff on the external.:)

    Now in my twisted way of thinking you could also disassemble that external and put the HDD from it into the machine.
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  6. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #96

    There's a lot in this post. If you're not sure - read the tutorial linked carefully for the answer.
    Still stumped? Stop and ask.

    Ty, I guess I got confused when you said all you could see was a black screen and the recylce bin.

    Anyway, it looks as though the install went well.

    I don't know why you tried to use Upgrade Anytime - the tutorial doesn't mention that.

    Use Option Two in this tutorial: Activate Windows 7 Online. You'll have to use the COA on the sticker. You cannot use the value stored on the machine at this time - later yes after you use the COA to activate.

    You can install the network drivers on the 1071 if not already done.

    Run check disk on C:

    Run defrag THREE times on C: - it will need to boot

    Then I want to remap the HD.

    You have about 149 GB on your C: partiton using about 12 GB. I have lots of apps on my system and am only using about 40 GB. So I'm going to recommend the following allocation. The only hard rule is HP_TOOLS

    Part 1: 100 MB - already exists, nothing to be done
    Part 2: C: -> shrink to 60 GB
    See Option One in Partition or Volume - Shrink
    In the amount to shrink enter: 91136
    The size displayed in the after shrink area should be close to 61440. I can't be exact becuase there are fractional GB.
    After the shrink Disk Management will show the size in GB, you're looking for about 60 GB

    Launch an Elevated Command Prompt
    enter Diskpart
    sel dis 0
    cre par ext
    exit
    exit

    Back to Disk Mgmnt
    select the extended partition
    right click
    create 3 logical drives (2 NTFS, 1 FAT32)
    1st logical: 42 GB (43010 MB), format NTFS, Letter D
    2st logical: 42 GB (43010 MB), format NTFS, Letter E
    3rd logical: what ever space remains; sb about 5GB, format FAT32, Letter F, label HP_TOOLS

    This differs from the 1010. You don't have the recovery media, so you won't need a partition to hold it.
    No Recovery partition
    HP_TOOLS is drive letter F - the only important things are FAT32 and HP_TOOLS label. The letter and size are not important.

    Run check disk on all of the new partitons

    Install the 'UEFI' diagnostics to the FAT32 partition. i think it automatically installs on HP_TOOLS, but if it asks, tell it where to go -> F:\

    This saves a lot of time Windows Update Rollup:A hidden Patch Tuesday gem: A Windows 7 hotfix rollup

    Then run Windows update manuallly until there is nothing offered.

    Check Device Manager for missing drivers (WU might give you a few) and look for them on the 1071 downloads page.

    Do NOT load any unecessary HP Software - only the missing drivers.

    When all is done, defrag C: three times

    Take a look at this to learn more about libraries and how you can use th two new partitons to store things off the c: drive.
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  7. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #97

    John,

    I think TyGuy is exhausted from this exercise... I know I am. So let Ty make a mental note of the Ubuntu option.

    I think it is a good idea to backup the system AFTER he finishes setting it up.
    ICit2lol said:
    Now I see the problem has been fixed and as I said about that Ubuntu stick now might be a good time to make one in case you go south again maybe even clone / image that dive to an external drive.
    Gee John, we just went through a clean install!!!!! There's no need for the Clean OEM install.

    The only COA Ty can use is the one on the sticker. The Upgrade Anytime option Ty chose was an error. I think I gave the instructions / tutorial to correct that.
    ICit2lol said:
    In any event I would -personally of course - make a note of the activation code it will be on the sticker or find it through Speccy or SIW and reload the 7 using this Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 that way you can have bloat free 7 on the machine and repatriate the data from the external drive afterwarsds and still have the original stuff on the external.:)
    Nah, why waste a 1TB exteranl drive in a Win7 starter machine?
    ICit2lol said:
    Now in my twisted way of thinking you could also disassemble that external and put the HDD from it into the machine.
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  8. Posts : 42
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #98

    Quick update,

    when I entered 31136 to shrink the C: drive, it wouldn't let me.


    Also,
    148.95 GB = 152524.8 MB.
    60 GB = 61440 MB.
    152524.8 - 61440 = 91084.8.
    Should I be entering that number?
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  9. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #99

    To get more shrink space, you're going to have to do a bit more work.

    There is the hibernation file - turn off hibernation
    elevated command prompt
    powercfg -h off

    There are restore points - turn off system restore
    Control Panel -> System -> System Protection
    select c:
    Configure button
    click radio button - turn off system protection
    answer yes to prompt about deleting all RPs

    There is the page file
    Click the Advanced Tab on the System Properties dialog box
    click the Performance settings button
    click the advanced tab on the Performance Options dialog
    click change Virtual Memory
    untick Automatically manage.....
    highlight/select c:
    click custom size radio button
    put 500 in both min and max
    click set
    Answer ok to delete RPs

    Ok out of the System Propeties dialog

    Restart

    Clean disk
    defrag 3 times

    Shrink the page file, post an image BEFORE and AFTER so I see what you see.


    Thanks
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  10. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #100

    I think you grasp the basic idea, but don't worry too much about exact numbers. My original calculations forgot to account for the hibernation, page, and RPs disk usage. I only used the raw numbers from your posts (150 GB total - 60 GB C: = 90 GB extended)

    I'm trying to give you ABOUT 60 GB for the C: drive and ABOUT 90 GB for the extended partition.

    Just a note on MB /GB calculations: I've found that by adding 2 to the calcualtion gives a nice round number in Windows. Using 40 GB as an example
    40 * 1024 = 40960 Windows shows 39.9 GB
    40960 + 2 = 40962 Windows shows 40 GB

    It really doesn't matter though.

    As an exercise to the student , post what you think the size of the three logical drives should be.

    Hint: the HP_TOOLS logical drive sb between 4 & 5 GB.. the other two depend on what shrink gives you.

    Bill
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