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Windows 7: Restore Points gone!

01 Nov 2009   #11
bertie11

Windows 8.1.1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bertie11 View Post
I had been dual booting XP Pro and the Evaluation version of 7 since last May and I don't recall having this trouble before, so maybe it was changed in the final release?
No, since XP is still XP and always will be XP - going by what Logic posted.
As an ordinary user I had hoped that Microsoft, assuming they were aware of this, just might have minimised the impact on 'ordinary users'!

Ah well, silly me. I guess I will carry on getting rid of XP, it will simplify things no end.
Thanks guys.


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01 Nov 2009   #12
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

"Ordinary users" don't dual boot.
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02 Nov 2009   #13
bertie11

Windows 8.1.1
 
 

May be I'm too modest!
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02 Nov 2009   #14
fermat

XP home, win7 home premium
 
 

Hi Bertie11,
I had the same problem as you, and followed the link to ms kbid 926185 posted by torrentg at 12:38 yesterday.

The registry hack worked fine for me. I tested it with .....
created a restore point in win7
booted xp
booted win7. restore point still there. created another.
booted xp
booted win7 both restore points still there

After you do the registry hack in xp, you can check it by
reboot into xp
start > my computer
double click on the icon for your win7 partition.
if you get an empty window, your hack was good
if you can see files on that partition, your hack was bad
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02 Nov 2009   #15
bertie11

Windows 8.1.1
 
 

Hi Fermat. Glad you got your system sorted. I knew others would come up against this!

quote WARNING This needs to be done in XP, not Vista. This download assumes that Vista is installed on the D: drive as the second OS. If this is not true for you, or you need to add another drive to be hidden from XP, then do OPTION TWO below to do this manually with the drive letter that your Vista is installed on instead. unquote

In my case, I wrote this earlier in the thread:
My current setup is that when I boot into Win 7 that is C:\ and XP Pro is then D:\ (the reverse to the above scenario), so I am not sure how to proceed with my setup, should I decide to keep XP.

So I am very unsure what _I_ need to do. Is the above saying that when I boot into XP that will be C:\ with my Win 7 D:\? If so, that presumably is normal and the fix should work. I haven't got used to the drive letters changing to whatever O/S is booting up.
I suppose a True Inage before I do anything would be good.
Thanks Fermat.
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02 Nov 2009   #16
fermat

XP home, win7 home premium
 
 

Hi Bertie11,
That stuff about drive letters changing confused me. I don't see it on my machine.

I have xp on C:, and installed win7 on H: (I was already using D & E partitions; F,G are CD/DVD)

Running xp shows C: as the sys drive. Running win7 shows H: as the sys drive, C is shown as just another disk.

So in xp I did the ms registry hack but replaced D: in their instructions with H:

It's xp that's trashing win7 restore points, so it's only the xp registry that needs to be changed.

And it's always a good idea to take a restore point (in xp ) before registry updates.

does that help?

regards
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03 Nov 2009   #17
bertie11

Windows 8.1.1
 
 

Hi Fermat. I had been running XP Pro on C:\ and about 6 monthas ago I created a new partition H:\ and installed the 7 Evaluation version. So at that point we are the same I think.
The other day I formatted H:\ to get rid of the eval version and did a clean instal of the purchased 7 Home Premium. It was then that I noticed that booting into 7 showed 7 on C:\ and D:\ became XP. H:\ is now my DVD drive. I don't know why it went onto C:\ and not H:\ Are you using the evaluation Win 7?

Rereading the blurb about this fix, I think as I have C:\ Win 7 booting into 7 and D:\as XP and booting into into XP shows C:\XP and D:\Win7 as I now read it, the fix should be OK as it is without any other changes.

Am I getting there?

Thanks.
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03 Nov 2009   #18
fermat

XP home, win7 home premium
 
 

Hi again Bertie11,
No, I'm running the release version of 7. Did a clean install onto my clean H partition.

Anyway, from what you describe, you can use the ms registry hack exactly as it is. Think about it in this way.

XP 'knows' that it is running off the C disk, and there is another disk called D. It has found something on D that looks like a windows restore file and deletes it.

After the hack in xp and reboot into xp, the only thing thing that has changed is that xp still knows that the D disk is there but because it is flagged as offline in the xp registry, xp can't 'see' into it.

Anything you do in the xp registry doesn't affect your 7 system.

To be on the safe side (especially if you don't often go into the registry), take a restore point in XP before the hack. Then it's only a couple of minutes to undo it if something goes wrong. It shouldn't, because you will only be adding a sub-key. But I always take a restore point, just in case.

OK?
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03 Nov 2009   #19
fermat

XP home, win7 home premium
 
 

Hi again Bertie11,
I've just found this on 7forums' sister forum for vista.

System Restore Points - Stop XP Dual Boot Delete - Vista Forums

It describes exactly what to do, with screenshots. (or a downloadable hack)
regards
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03 Nov 2009   #20
bertie11

Windows 8.1.1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fermat View Post
Hi again Bertie11,
I've just found this on 7forums' sister forum for vista.

System Restore Points - Stop XP Dual Boot Delete - Vista Forums

It describes exactly what to do, with screenshots. (or a downloadable hack)
regards
Hello again fermat, yes, I have that page but this is the bit that still puzzles me
"This needs to be done in XP, not Vista. This download assumes that Vista is installed on the D: drive as the second OS. If this is not true for you, or you need to add another drive to be hidden from XP, then do OPTION TWO below to do this manually with the drive letter that your Vista is installed on instead".
In my last post I said I had C:\XP and D:\Win 7 booting to XP. In fact, Win 7 is H:\ so I need to do what you did, but I'm not sure how you changed H:\ to D:\. Did you do that in Disk Management or what? Unless clicking on the hack produces a screen where I can make a choice?
I thought it would just stick a patch into the registry with no involvement from me. Just want to clarify before i do the deed!
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