Losing restore points on every reboot - dualboot Win 7 + 10 Pro 64-bit

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  1. Posts : 132
    Dual boot - Win 7 Pro 64-bit and Win 10 Pro 64-bit
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    Losing restore points on every reboot - dualboot Win 7 + 10 Pro 64-bit


    I have a Dell Optiplex 7010 MT dual-booting Win 7 Pro SP1 64-bit and Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

    On every reboot into Win 7, my Win 7 System Restore Points are deleted. (Haven't checked Win 10,which I barely use.)

    In the Win 7 Event Viewer, I see: Error - volsnapp - Event ID 29 - "The shadow copies of volume C: were aborted during detection."

    What should I do to fix?

    [FYI - the Win 7 and 10 installations are UEFI, with Secure Boot NOT enabled (don't want it), and my BIOS points to boot-up using Windows Boot Manager, and the next BIOS sub-window has Enable Legacy Option ROMs ENABLED. Don't particularly want to change this and might not be relevant anyway.]

    [Also FYI - there are other internal hard drives connected in the additional SATA sockets in my motherboard and an external drive is connected to a USB socket, but they are not intended to be bootable OSes, although one of the internal drives was my very original Win 8 OS that I don't use and that does NOT appear as a boot choice in EasyBCD. In System Properties, Protection Settings for the Win 7 and 10 partitions are ON, and for the other partitions (the other hard drives) are OFF. This seems correct to me, but what do I know?]

    Thanks.
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  2. Posts : 4,751
    Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
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    First make sure your Restore Points are Enabled. This Tutorial shows you what to do.
    System Restore - Enable or Disable If they are enabled, then try making a manual restore point and see if it works. If so, then try a reboot after that and see if the Restore Point is still there. Let me know what happens.
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  3. Posts : 132
    Dual boot - Win 7 Pro 64-bit and Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
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    bigmck - thanks for fast response.

    1) The tutorial starts with "EXAMPLE". Well, I have ATTACHED a screenshot of MY System Protection tab -- you can see that it's "On" for my dual-booting OSes and the "Configure" button is NOT greyed out. [FYI - Windows 8 is the name of the partition that now has Win 10. Was 8 originally and then I upgraded it without changing the name.]

    2) In the tutorial, Option One is a quick Registry .reg file. It is the following - just these lines:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\SystemRestore]
    "DisableConfig"=-
    Before I ran it, I looked at my Registry and was surprised that I don't have a subkey "SystemRestore" in my key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\"

    So, SHOULD I run this .reg file? That is, is it INTENDED to add a new key? Just want to be sure. Please tell me what you can about it.

    3) In the tutorial, Option Two is about the Local Group Policy Editor. FYI - My "Turn off Configuration" and "Turn off System Restore" are already in the "Not configured" state, and that's good.

    Please let me know about all the above. Thanks!
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  4. Posts : 7,101
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
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    w10


    Not sure,
    But the default in W10 is system restore OFF.

    Try changing it to ON, might help, even thou there independant OS's

    Roy
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  5. Posts : 132
    Dual boot - Win 7 Pro 64-bit and Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
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    torchwood - good question. I rebooted into Win 10 and have the same situation and same problem. See attached. (Reminder that "Windows 8" is just the name for that partition - it actually holds my Win 10.)

    Wonder whether I should turn System Restore on for ALL my drives, not just the main drive with both OSes.

    Does anyone have a thought about my question regarding the registry fix above?
    -
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  6. Posts : 7,101
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
       #6

    well looking at that screenshot,
    id certainly enable it on E, (could be the parent and its over-riding children)
    and you seem to have more drives that are not shown.

    Roy
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  7. Posts : 4,751
    Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
       #7

    I would not run the Registry Fix. Your Restore Points appear to be ON and in order. == Did you make a manual Restore Point and check to see if it took as requested in my first post? If it took then reboot and check again to see if there are any Restore Points. == Also post a screen capture of your Disk Management. If unsure how to do it use this tutorial. Be sure and stretch the columns so we can read all of the print. Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image
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  8. Posts : 132
    Dual boot - Win 7 Pro 64-bit and Win 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
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    bigmck - Understood, but you've just reminded me of something, and I would appreciate your advice on a deeper level.

    (First, see the attached png of my Disk Management. Right now, I'm in the 10, and reminder that the name of the 10 partition is "Windows 8" even though it now has only Win 10.)

    A year ago, I bought this very nice Optiplex 7010 MT, which came with a single hard drive on which Win 8 Pro 64-bit had already been installed, and it also came with the Dell Win 8 re-install disk. My deal with the Dell-authorized reseller and Dell itself was that Dell would also send me a Win 7 Pro 64-bit install disk, which Dell did. Then, I bought a second, blank hard drive, and I managed to install both Win 7 Pro 64-bit and Win 8 Pro 64-bit as dual-booting on the second drive. (Sometimes I kept the original drive connected, and sometimes not. It still has the original Win 8 on it. In the attached png, that original 8 appears as OS E:. But it is NOT a bootup choice - it does NOT appear as a bootup choice in my EasyBCD or its cousin iReboot.)

    Time passed, and the Win 8 upgraded itself to 8.1, and then more recently to 10. I made an AOMEI Backupper backup of the whole drive. A little while later, something got screwy (don't remember), so I decided to Restore the whole drive from the AOMEI backup. Well, after that, my 7 worked, but the 10 would not boot. (I think the attempt to boot into 10 gave me a BSOD.) So, somehow, I made (or had made) a USB install image of the 10, and so I re-installed the 10 from the USB. Both OSes seem to be working well since then, with very few Errors or Warnings in Event Viewer.

    I relate this long and somewhat boring story because I am a bit concerned that if I now do a Restore Point recovery from System Restore, something may go wrong.

    What do you think? I'm willing to try it since I'm really not using my new Opti 7010 much anyway - more playing with it than anything else. But any safety steps first?

    And should I do it in the 10 or the 7? If I have to lose one of the OSes, I would rather LOSE the 10 and KEEP the 7. So should I be in the 7 or the 10 when I make a new System Restore point and then Restore from it as a test? (And I would first disconnect all those other drives. My PCs are on the floor, and I am SO happy I have knee pads.)

    Thanks.
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  9. Posts : 7,101
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
       #9

    size


    Ginz,

    whats here
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  10. Posts : 6,330
    Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
       #10

    Take a look at this tutorial:
    System Restore Points - Stop XP Dual Boot Delete

    Setting the Win 7 partitions to "offline" worked for me when i multi-booted XP-32, W7-32, and W7-64.

    I now have W7-64, W8.1-64, and W10-64, but i haven't used/tested this with that OS combination.
    I don't use system restore (points).
    I use Macrium Reflect Backup images, and create a quick differential if and when i want to.
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