Can I store/employ a system image on the internal hard-drive ?

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  1. Posts : 514
    Windows 7 Pro x64
       #1

    Can I store/employ a system image on the internal hard-drive ?


    Can I store/employ a system image on the internal hard-drive under a letter different than C: ?

    If so, how do I go about creating this new letter and how much space should I allocate ?

    Thanks for reading.
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  2. Posts : 6,330
    Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
       #2

    Yes, it's possible.

    Post a maximized/resized screen print of Disk Management using these instructions to show ALL info:
    Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image

    Some people consider a different partition on a single hard drive as a different drive than [C], some don't.

    If you have only one physical drive and need to resize the [C] OS partition, it gets risky-er imho.
    Backups (images) should also be saved to a different device for safety.
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  3. Posts : 2,774
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
       #3

    What will you do if your internal HD or your Windows goes down? Best to have full images of your OS partition and your data partition on reliable external media.
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  4. Posts : 514
    Windows 7 Pro x64
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Thanks, DavidE and RolandJS.
    I do store infrequent system images on the only NTFS formatted ext-drive that I currently have; I switch it back and forth between four machines.
    I fully appreciate the fact that, when the internal drive crashes, one had better have a system image stored somewhere else.
    However, in 95% of situations, it is not a hard-drive failure that warrants the need of a system image; it is more likely some corruption of software or data that creates a catastrophe.

    What I would like is to create a space in each machine where I could have a program automatically save an image at set intervals, thus keeping any program or driver additions up to date.

    If I had a major crash, I would have my not-so-frequent image stored on the ext-drive to fall back on; and, if it were some system nightmare that was causing me grief, I would have an up-to-date version ready and waiting.

    Thanks for reading.
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  5. Posts : 2,774
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
       #5

    The only program I know of that just might allow you to make a full image of the partition you mentioned and save it onto the same physical hard-drive is TeraByte Unlimited's Image for Windows; which comes with a 30-day trial version if wanting to test it. I'm pretty sure Macrium Reflect won't -- others here can correct me if/where I'm wrong. :)

    Addendum: DavidE, in the very next post, gave this excellent correction:
    Macrium and AOEMI can create/save a backup image to a different partition on the same physical drive.
    I expect most backup imaging utilities can do this.
    Thanks DavidE :)
    Last edited by RolandJS; 12 Jan 2017 at 19:13.
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  6. Posts : 6,330
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       #6

    Macrium and AOEMI can create/save a backup image to a different partition on the same physical drive.
    I expect most backup imaging utilities can do this.
    You need to be careful how many primary partitions you have, with Legacy BIOS/MBR you can have 3 primary and unlimited logical or max 4 primary per drive.

    On my test box shown below i can create a backup image of any OS and save it on the Data partition or a Backups drive (that is usually offline).

    Can I store/employ a system image on the internal hard-drive ?-diskmgt.png

    EDIT:
    here's a snip of another pc where an OS and data partitions are on the same physical drive:

    Can I store/employ a system image on the internal hard-drive ?-diskmgt_02.png
    Last edited by DavidE; 12 Jan 2017 at 16:19. Reason: add info
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  7. Posts : 514
    Windows 7 Pro x64
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Thanks to you both !

    I barely understand what I am looking at in those disk management snips; on the top one, if I understand what I see, you have three OS, Win 7, Win 8.1, and Win 10.

    If I understand, you said a system image could be saved in the data partition; is that also where the libraries reside ?
    If so, would you just save the image in "documents" or some such ?

    Please enlighten me on this three OS business; let's say you are doing something in Win 7 and then you need to do something else in Win 10, how do you switch from one OS to another ?

    I figure you have to have separate license keys for all three.


    Back to my original question, what would I need do to create the partition for AOMEI to save the image in ?

    Thanks for reading.
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  8. Posts : 63
    Windows 7 home basics x64
       #8

    I would suggest creating a seperate partition for those images with minitool partition wizard or any other software and use macrium or easeus todo to create and store the backup to that partition.you can hide that partition if you want to protect the data in it
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  9. Posts : 6,330
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    I agree with using MiniTool Partition Wizard.
    I would use the bootable CD, I don't like making disk structure changes to the OS drive while Windows is running.
    MiniTool Free Bootable Partition Manager | Partition Wizard Bootable CD

    To change the OS, i re-boot and select the OS i want to run.
    Yes, each OS has it's own license.

    I have folders for documents, music, videos, etc. in the Data partition and then include those folders in the appropriate Library.
    I don't store user data in the OS [C] partition.

    I also have a Backups folder in the Data partition, but you could create a separate partition just for Backups if you want to.
    It's up to each user how they want to organize and structure things.

    I prefer fewer partitions, so i don't run into problems later where i learn some partition is too small and i have to do some resizing.

    I don't suggest my way is the best for anyone else, it works for me and i understand it.
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  10. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #10

    If you could completely fill in your (My System Specs) it would be helpful.

    Like David posted; everybody has their own method of backing up and using more than one operating system. Dual boot or triple boot.

    My method.

    1. Every operating system has it's own drive.
    2. All Backup, Images, or Clones are stored on a removable drive. I store those drives in a safe place. Unless I need those drives they say unhooked from my computer.
    That way if one drive or the system does a belly up I'm still in business.
    Fix the problem and pop in the Images or Clone and happy computing again.

    I also use MiniTool Partition Wizard in conjunction with Macrium Reflect. Then I use Windows 7 to name all drives and partition so I can find things later.

    Here is a small example from my system.

    Can I store/employ a system image on the internal hard-drive ?-disk-management-dec-5-2015.png



    Jack
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