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Windows 7: Clone HDD to SSD, is it a problem.

30 May 2017   #11
bawldiggle

XP Pro (x86) | 7 HP (x86) & (x64) | 7 Pro (x64)
 
 

Off topic (sort of ...
Jeannie, you are psychic. I suspect my wife's SSD might be on its last legs (3 yrs old) ... she gives it a beating with her video collages.


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30 May 2017   #12
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

CrystalDiskInfo will give you a good status summary of your SSDs and HDDs. For SSDs it will give a health score and also show if Trim is enabled.
Suggest the standard edition portable version.
http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html

BTW 3 years isn't very long for an SSD to bite the dust.
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30 May 2017   #13
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bawldiggle View Post
Off topic (sort of ...
Jeannie, you are psychic. I suspect my wife's SSD might be on its last legs (3 yrs old) ... she gives it a beating with her video collages.
You spelled psycho wrong.
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01 Jun 2017   #14
bawldiggle

XP Pro (x86) | 7 HP (x86) & (x64) | 7 Pro (x64)
 
 

Or is it "physic"
Insanity runs in my family, I caught from my kids !
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01 Jun 2017   #15
bawldiggle

XP Pro (x86) | 7 HP (x86) & (x64) | 7 Pro (x64)
 
 

@ mjf

I have already checked the SSD health, today certain keyboard characters not working
My thread today Keyboard problem, left-brace - Windows 7 Help Forums

I am starting to suspect wife's PC has corrupted OS

I need more problems like a hole in the head ...
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2 Weeks Ago   #16
justin5089

64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bawldiggle View Post
Today I went to buy an SSD to clone my mechanical HDD onto the SSD.
Sales assistant told me to never clone HDD to SSD because Windows will be much slower than a direct install onto an SSD.

Is this true ?

At Macrium forum how to clone a HHd to an SSD (I think Gork is the/a developer) implies otherwise.
- granted his post is for v5 in 2013

I am hoping to use the SSD as a clone backup and if necessary (I don't like when !), clone the trashed HDD from the SSD

Informed comments appreciated :)

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UPDATE
Lady Fitzgerald's post #2 is the best overview of cloning, imaging and backups, I have read
She has given me the courage to jump in ... confessions of a 71 yr old reptile
That is not true Windows 10 can optimize itself even if you change the drive to ssd, i am attaching a picture here from there you can see that you can run optimization weekly as per your need
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2 Weeks Ago   #17
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Depends if you fancy a clean install - there are pros and cons to that. A fresh install can be snappier than something you have been running for a long time. But it means getting the updates, installing your programs, drivers, setting everything up again.

Cloning is easy enough, I did a lot of it yesterday using Aomei

Unlimited Giveaway AOMEI Backupper Professional 5.3 - Free License

I am curious what might have inspired you to resurrect this old thread?
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2 Weeks Ago   #18
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I am curious what might have inspired you to resurrect this old thread?

I'm going to say perhaps I have a little bit of clairvoyance or psychic ability in me and say that the images are from his website which is run in WordPress hiding behind CloudFlare for the expressed purpose to increase SEO. Though I could be wrong. BUT! The images look like they pertain to Windows 10 and not 7 which this particular forum is all about. Not 10.

Edit-

He does a really bad job at hiding behind CloudFlare and he's got a ton of CVEs to fix. Berry, berry bad. https://www.shodan.io/host/50.31.114.45

His other website is called Crawlerguys - Latest Tech News


Edit 2-


And I'm going to rub my crystal ball and place the tarot cards down and say he's using crazydomains for both sites for domain registration and hosting. LMAO!
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2 Weeks Ago   #19
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

In an earlier post, I saw something that Windows 10 does to clean up a drive, is that a defragger? I thought SSDs do not defrag, rather, it's best to TRIM. Did I see that pic wrongly?
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2 Weeks Ago   #20
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
In an earlier post, I saw something that Windows 10 does to clean up a drive, is that a defragger? I thought SSDs do not defrag, rather, it's best to TRIM. Did I see that pic wrongly?

What's the post number?

True. SSDs don't need to be defragged. It's the way they roll. It's a chip, actually about 6 or more memory chips on a board withen a piece of plastic or metal casing. That's all an SSD is. With a mechanic drive it is by nature prone to fragment data all over the place. Thus reducing the read and write speed because the head has to go from way up here to way down here and all over the place to read and write inconsistent data for lack of the proper term. With an SSD the data is just there and read and wrote to very rapidly. It's a memory chip after all.

Defragging a SSD would put a very, VERY large amount of writes to the chip that does in fact have an finite life cycle. The MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) increases with more and more writes. But now a days the tech has gotten better so it really isn't as bad as it used to.

If I'm not mistaken, TRIM, which is actually the name for the command, is to help facilitate garbage collection. So it's like the trash man comes along while your computer is idle and frees up memory areas or something. I think this is why you see the HDD light indicator activity with an idle computer because the OS is doing garbage collection. LOL

When I got my first SSD I ran it in XP 64. But in XP there was no such thing as a TRIM command. So yes, my very old Sandforce-based SSD went kaput in about a year. I did know of the problem using XP and I was willing to face the problem. But it wasn't that big of a deal since I always clone my computer's to backup external HDDs.
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