Won't restore system after driver updates broke cherrytree & ccleaner

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  1. Posts : 42
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    Won't restore system after driver updates broke cherrytree & ccleaner


    I'm wondering whether to try advanced methods of restoring my laptop to an earlier time. Normal method reports success, but doesn't fix problem and shows same restore points next time. I was about to try from Safe Mode, but thought I'd drop in here first (no undo).

    Short description of issue
    After updating drivers (reported in DriverEasy) - Intel Management Interface, Realtek High Definition Audio, Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller and Intel HD Graphics - I found that Cherrytree (editor) window wouldn't display. It is normally hidden with an icon in the notification area, showing when clicked. It now shows very briefly, then disappears again, although showing its item in the taskbar. I've also noticed (after various attempts to restore system) that Ccleaner won't run, giving the error that I don't have permission, and its icon has changed, maybe to the default for unrecognised exes.

    I had made restore points, so when I noticed the problem with cherrytree, I decided to use the restore points to go back one at a time until it was fixed, but discovered that it wasn't going back.

    More details
    However, the process was complicated by the fact that I had tried to get around the slow download speed of the manual version of Driver Easy by searching online for the Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller driver to download and install manually, making sure it was the same version, 7.112.0811.2017. I intended to continue this way for any further driver installation. However, I happened to find this version at the website of DriverMax, and I made the mistake of ticking the box to "scan for other outdated drivers". DriverMax automatically installed the driver and, of course, DriverMax itself.

    At first, I was impressed with DriverMax, it looked like it would let me install drivers more easily, so (IIRC), I tested it by doing the first on its list from within its UI, the Intel HD Graphics. I think this was when I noticed the cherrytree error, because I make notes there of such things, and I also used the in-built Restore feature of DriverMax to try to reverse this (it allows you to choose a restore point and instigates the System Restore), which was when I found that it wasn't going back.

    I reverted to using System Restore directly, which also didn't go back (but each time reported success). I tried various earlier points (I haven't tried the latest system-generated one yet), to no avail. I was by now suspicious of DriverMax, which doesn't even have an option not to run at startup, and thought that might be interfering, so uninstalled it. Same. I researched and found advice that antivirus can interfere with Restore, so I suspended services on Avast until after restart. Same.

    I thought perhaps the cherrytree issue was not directly related, or could be fixed independently, so reinstalled the latest version again. Same.

    I ran Avast smart scan in case of infection. None found. I thought I'd check Ccleaner for its list of restore points, etc., and was denied access, then noticed its icon was wrong.

    Do you advise trying a restore point via safe mode, or via installation disc utilities, or something else?

    Prior to starting this, I backed up files to an external drive, so data should be safe. I don't have a disc image, and I didn't make a rescue disc. I do have the Windows7 installation disc.
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  2. Posts : 7,107
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       #2

    Hi Treehouse,

    NOT a fan of 3rd party driver updaters, MS does a pretty good job
    OEM drivers are favourite from your homepage
    Custom Build ALLWAYS from the manufacturers site.

    Something has obviously corrupted System restore, Safe mode will still only find the same restore points.
    There is a LAST known good option, you could try that.

    As you have all your files backed up externally, might be worth your while doing a clean install, updating everything apart from Cherrytree, NOW create a system image
    Imaging with free Macrium - Windows 7 Help Forums

    Now start playing with Cherrytree, image re-install 10-15 mins if it ruins your system
    once installed and NO probles create new image


    Roy
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  3. Posts : 7,107
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
       #3

    Just looked at your specs

    2GB with W7 is NOT really enough for a 64bit install- min 3GB.

    Roy

    EDIT

    My mrs has the same lappy- it came with 3GB?? somebody taken some out????
    just read your previous thread
    YOUR backup W7 key is on the COA sticker
    i can provide a W7 Iso
    can you also copy/paste the results from this tool i want to check something
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=52012

    i DO NOT believe the install is non-genuine
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  4. Posts : 42
    Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Hi Torchwood, great info, thanks.

    torchwood said:
    NOT a fan of 3rd party driver updaters
    Me neither now! I'll use MS from now on. Lesson learned.

    There is a LAST known good option, you could try that.
    OK. Thanks.

    As you have all your files backed up externally, might be worth your while doing a clean install
    Really rather not, but I guess it's a possible option. One issue is that MS gave me a "one-time" activation key, and I don't want to get into all that wrangle again if it won't recognise it. In fact, I just won't. I'll install Linux.

    torchwood said:
    Just looked at your specs

    2GB with W7 is NOT really enough for a 64bit install- min 3GB.

    Roy

    EDIT

    My mrs has the same lappy- it came with 3GB?? somebody taken some out????
    Nah. It'll have had Vista on originally. Seems pretty good, actually, but I know it's not enough. I just haven't got around to putting another 2 GB in yet. Had to get a new hard-drive after that crash and went SSD, which seems to help, but I'm not doing much that needs loads of memory.

    just read your previous thread
    YOUR backup W7 key is on the COA sticker
    i can provide a W7 Iso
    All sorted now, thanks.

    can you also copy/paste the results from this tool i want to check something
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=52012

    i DO NOT believe the install is non-genuine
    Could you just tell me a bit more about it first or where I can read about it? I don't want to just install something at this stage without knowing why. What is it you're wanting to check? I'm pretty sure the ISO I burned is legit.
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  5. Posts : 7,107
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
       #5

    Hi Treehouse,

    the tool
    Its purely a diagnostic report about how your system has been activated and registered with MS, and has been posted in multiple forums including MS, thousands of em.
    There is NO personal data in it.

    It will show a partial product key last 3 sets only
    (belarc will show the complete key DONT post it.)

    im more interested in what type of licence,
    then i can provide a link for a W7 service pack 1 Iso download, from MS servers

    I do find it odd that comp came with Vista, as i said my mrs has got one, the COA sticker will also show the originally installed OS

    As youve only got 2GB the Iso can be for a 32bit option the key should be valid for both


    As it sounds like you dont want to go the clean install route the Iso can be used to perform a repair install NO LOSS of personal data but it will repair corrupted registry entries
    Repair Install - Windows 7 Help Forums


    Roy
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  6. Posts : 42
    Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Cheers Buddy...
    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

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    HWID Data-->
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    SSDT PmRef CpuPm
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  7. Posts : 7,107
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       #7

    Hi treehouse,

    Jolly decent of MS to give you a Retail key, it can be transferred to ANY computer.

    Looking at that report it looks like the original OS was 7 not Vista

    anyway
    you can try either the clean or repair install with this D/l
    W7 SP1 X64 home premium

    https://software-download.microsoft....031a8ae8103fad


    This link is only valid till midnight Sunday.

    DONT FORGET TO PULL THE FULL KEY using Belarc you WILL need it
    Belarc - System Management For The Internet Age. Software license management, IT asset management, IT security, Cyber Security.



    Roy
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  8. Posts : 7,107
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       #8

    Hi Treehouse,,

    Are you running UEFI bios, it didnt come with that, doesnt matter unless your planning to clean install


    Roy
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  9. Posts : 42
    Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Hi Roy, I don't understand the need for this download. Can't I just use the disc I burned already when I did the last full reinstall?

    Also, when you say "repair install", is that the same as using rescue utilities, either from the extended boot menu or the installation disc?

    This is all well above my pay grade. You seem to have come to the conclusion that some kind of reinstall is required. Are you sure it's not possible to diagnose the problem and do something less drastic to fix it?

    You suggested the last known good option, but when I select that, the additional info says that it will use the settings from the last known successful boot. I'm not sure that's much use, since it's booting fine.

    Edit: I don't know if it's UEFI, but I don't think so.

    Thanks for your help,
    John
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  10. Posts : 16,154
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