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Windows 7: next step after cloning

03 Dec 2017   #11
theyoungwag

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Hi again Lady F, just had a quibk look, one site has about 10 pages of Orico products here in France, so as it is just after midnight I will have a good look tomorrow. Thanks.


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03 Dec 2017   #12
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theyoungwag View Post
...Why did I doubt a Lady, at my age I should know that they are always right.
I wish I had a dollar for every time I was wrong!
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03 Dec 2017   #13
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

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I wish I had a dollar for every time I was wrong!
I wish I had a dollar for every time I was right! -- Roland Dangerfield
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08 Dec 2017   #14
theyoungwag

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Hi to you all again, this is to say a great big thank you, everything works. Cloned to an external hd, then put that onto a new large internal hd, back up and running first time. Then used Lady F's idea. bought this machine, formatted the old hd with ease. Then, I replaced the cloned copy back onto it, stupid you might think, then went down the route suggested by RolandJS and Layback Bear and did it all again their way, it worked again. Reason for this, I now know a bit more than before, more confident. Now, associated question, if I change my P8P67 board, the existing hd and the new board won't talk to each other, so if I formatted the hd and then put the cloned copy onto it, would it work? Probably not I think. Anyway that is just a thought at the moment. So, again, a great big thank you , you give your time and experience freely to help others, a rare thing in this day and age. Thanks. Bill
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08 Dec 2017   #15
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theyoungwag View Post
... if I change my P8P67 board, the existing hd and the new board won't talk to each other, so if I formatted the hd and then put the cloned copy onto it, would it work? Probably not I think. Anyway that is just a thought at the moment. So, again, a great big thank you , you give your time and experience freely to help others, a rare thing in this day and age. Thanks. Bill
You're welcome. We all have been where you are now once upon a time and received help from others so 'tis only fair we reciprocate.

On to your latest question... Usually, if you change your computer's motherboard (MOBO), the current installation of your operating system (OS, such as Win 7), both on the drive you are now using and on the cloned copy you have, will not work since the activation of the OS is tied to the serial number of the MOBO it was originally installed with plus a new MOBO, unless it is the exact same make and model, will need different drivers. It would be better to do a clean installation of the OS after changing the MOBO.

You might be able to use the same copy of the original OS that came with the computer (OEM) but you would have to call Microsoft (MS) and try to sweet talk them into reactivating the OS. It used to be easy to that but MS has become picky about that lately and getting a formerly used OEM OS reactivated has become a bit of a crap shoot and may take several calls to find a sympathetic agent to do the reactivation (if you find one at all).
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08 Dec 2017   #16
theyoungwag

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Hi, Dear Lady, your reply is almost what I thought it would be. The big problem for me, the reason for my query in the first place, is that when I came to France my computer arrived ok, but the boxes with all my discs, both my computer cd's and my music cd's, for some strange reason got lost. That leaves my unable to re-install Windows, Malwarebytes, Eset, and loads of other programs. Never mind, that's life. Thanks for your help, enjoy the festive season. Bill
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08 Dec 2017   #17
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

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...the boxes with all my discs, both my computer cd's and my music cd's, for some strange reason got lost...
Going forward, begin a log, on computer and/or on paper, of every license, product key, etc. of any software you purchase in the future, and, if you ever get those presently-lost boxes, the same with the software within. And, of course, make routine, at bi-monthly, full image backups of your OS and Data partitions onto affordable external media.
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08 Dec 2017   #18
theyoungwag

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Hi RolandJS, learnt my lesson, got a 2tb external usb hd, and now set to back-up on auto every 2 weeks. I thank you very much for you help and advice, it restores my faith a little in human nature. Have a nice time at Christmas.
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09 Dec 2017   #19
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Thanks for the gracious post! Let me add more good human nature: if you search on Lady Fitzgerald, you will find many posts in various threads, filled with very thorough, very helpful, advice about backups and much more.
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09 Dec 2017   #20
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theyoungwag View Post
Hi, Dear Lady, your reply is almost what I thought it would be. The big problem for me, the reason for my query in the first place, is that when I came to France my computer arrived ok, but the boxes with all my discs, both my computer cd's and my music cd's, for some strange reason got lost. That leaves my unable to re-install Windows, Malwarebytes, Eset, and loads of other programs. Never mind, that's life. Thanks for your help, enjoy the festive season. Bill
What? Me never mind? You been talkin' to my late Mama (she always said I would never mind her)?

Roland gave you excellent advice about keeping a record of all your license keys. I pretty much do the same thing.

All seriousness aside, read this tutorial for various ways you can recover product keys for your programs.

Once you have your product keys, you can usually download the installation files for the latest versions of your programs, including Windows. Just plug in the program name in your favorite search engine (I refuse to plug Google; it's not the only search engine around) to find a download site for the program.

I'm practically OCD when it comes to backing up data, something you really should look into if you aren't already doing so (that would be a topic for another thread). One thing I always do when I download a program, an updates to an existing program, is to save the installation file into a folder. That way, if I ever need to reinstall a program or revert to an earlier version of a program (the latest versions aren't always the greatest), I can easily do so since I will have the appropriate file on hand. When saving an installation file, to make sure an overzealous Antivirus or Antimalware program doesn't zap it, I "sandbox" it in a zipped folder (I like 7-Zip for that) to protect the file. I can always unzip it when I need to use it.

I also backup my program installation CDs/DVDs by making an .iso file from each one. I use CDBurnerXP for that (don't let the name fool you; it works well in Windows XP through Win 10, including Win 7). It's not the most intuitive program to use but it does have a help screen on the internet you can access from the program plus one of us can walk you through the process (again, a topic for another thread). Once I've made the .ISO files of my program discs, I keep them in my safe deposit box at my credit union (I'm not only OCD, I'm paranoid ) since I can use a virtual optical drive (generic name for CD and DVD drives) to open the .ISO files. I like Virtual CloneDrive for that. It shows up in My Computer like a regular optical drive and you use it by right clicking on a .ISO file you to open up and click on Mount with Virtual Clone Drive. If the only .ISO files you use are for program installation discs, you can just make Virtual CloneDrive your default program for .ISO files (I also have .ISO files of my movies so I can't do that).

I'm already enjoying the festive season so you do the same! I already had a wonderful Thanksgiving dinner, well seasoned with good friends. Christmas should be the same.
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