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Windows 7: Clone With AOMEI

01 Feb 2018   #1
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 
Clone With AOMEI

This is my first time trying to Clone a Drive so I am hoping to get a little help. I'll be doing this over the weekend.

I'm using AOMEI Backupper because it's GUI is very simple, and maybe a little less confusing than Macrium. I use Macrium on my main pc to Backup the System, but still getting used to it. I've also used AOMEI to backup my laptop.

My questions are below, and please add to it if needed. It seems pretty straight forward, but, I' never done it before so am a bit nervous.

-I'll be Cloning from a 250GB WD HDD to a 1TB WD HDD.

Here are the options at the Clone Tutorial at AOMEI:

a) If you want to adjust the partitions size or location on the destination disk,
click the "Edit partitions on the destination disk" button. Options available are:

1. Copy without resizing partitions: Do not do any changes.

2. Fit partition to entire disk: The destination disk partitions will be
automatically resized to the entire disk, appropriate for the disk size.

3. Edit partitions on this disk: Manually adjust the partition size and
location by dragging a slider bar.


MY QUESTIONS:

2. If I choose #2 will it expand all partitions equally, or is it smart enough to know to just expand the C Drive?

3. If I choose #3 will it be straight forward...LOL, or is that a loaded question? I'm guessing, and hoping it will be super easy, and just adjust the C Drive and let er rip!

a. The drive surely has a Recovery Partition on it and will probably want to keep it. I know this will take longer but o-well, that's fine.

I have done some partitioning but not super proficient at it yet. Also done some in Linux, and it's usually a challenge, but always get er done somehow.

Thanks, Nasty7


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02 Feb 2018   #2
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

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3. If I choose #3 will it be straight forward...LOL, or is that a loaded question? I'm guessing, and hoping it will be super easy, and just adjust the C Drive and let er rip!
Yes, it should be fine.
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02 Feb 2018   #3
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

@SIW2, Thanks!
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02 Feb 2018   #4
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Keep in mind that a clone backup is not the same as an image backup. A clone basically gets all of the raw information from the drive, errors and all; while an image gets the files and folders. In other words, a clone is a low-level backup, while an image is a high-level backup.

It would be good to do both types of backups, because each one offers different benefits. Also, in case one fails, you have the other.
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02 Feb 2018   #5
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I should be using the Clone to start with though right? Image first then attempt the Clone to New Drive?

I was thinking I would check the Hardware first, in fact, I have a spare HP PSU that may work to test that theory.

Then do a sfc scan, and or a CHKDSK C: /R? I did see that the SMART was good, but that is not always accurate from my experience. Just want to make sure there is no heat before attempting one of these.

I'm glad you said something, I was going to backup all Files anyhow, but I was thinking "Clone" was going to bring everything over?

Is it possible to just Image it and then drop that Image onto the new Drive?

If this don't work for me, don't worry, I'll find out if they have Recovery Media, and I have Retail Install Media also.

Do I need to Install AOMEI to do this, or just run from DVD?

Lastly, AOMEI or Macrium, is one better than the other?
I have Macrium Installed on my Main Machine, so for at least one part of this I could Image to my Personal Backup.

I know that's a lot, any help is great! I'll need to do this one day soon on one of my machines.

Thanks, Nasty7
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02 Feb 2018   #6
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Is it possible to just Image it and then drop that Image onto the new Drive?
Yes.
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Do I need to Install AOMEI to do this, or just run from DVD?
You can run Aomei from booted media containing the Aomei pe components, it isn't necessary to install it.
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02 Feb 2018   #7
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nasty7 View Post
I should be using the Clone to start with though right? Image first then attempt the Clone to New Drive?

I was thinking I would check the Hardware first, in fact, I have a spare HP PSU that may work to test that theory.

Then do a sfc scan, and or a CHKDSK C: /R? I did see that the SMART was good, but that is not always accurate from my experience. Just want to make sure there is no heat before attempting one of these.

I'm glad you said something, I was going to backup all Files anyhow, but I was thinking "Clone" was going to bring everything over?

Is it possible to just Image it and then drop that Image onto the new Drive?

If this don't work for me, don't worry, I'll find out if they have Recovery Media, and I have Retail Install Media also.

Do I need to Install AOMEI to do this, or just run from DVD?

Lastly, AOMEI or Macrium, is one better than the other?
I have Macrium Installed on my Main Machine, so for at least one part of this I could Image to my Personal Backup.

I know that's a lot, any help is great! I'll need to do this one day soon on one of my machines.

Thanks, Nasty7
Both types of backup are valid and complete backups, but they perform that function differently. A clone backup non-intelligently moves through the whole drive, backing up all of the bits of data exactly as they are laid out on the drive, including the empty space. An image backup, on the other hand, intelligently backs up only the files and folders. A side benefit of an image backup is that it has the effect of defragmenting the contents. A clone backup preserves everything as is, fragmentation and all.

If I were going to do both types of backups, I would probably do the clone first, then the image. But it's not a big deal which one you do first.

I would do at least one of the backups before you do anything else.
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02 Feb 2018   #8
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

If I could have the ideal "restore" kit, this is what it would include:
  • A complete set or two of original factory install DVDs, if available, so that you can get the computer back to original factory condition.
  • A Windows install disk, so that you can do a clean install of Windows.
  • A second, identical hard drive -- whenever you do a backup, remove the current hard drive and put in the second hard drive, then do a restore to the second hard drive. You will know immediately if your backup was successful.
  • One or two copies of an emergency boot disk, so that you can boot the computer and do a restore if your hard drive fails.
  • Several pairs of 2TB external hard drives -- each backup would be kept on two drives; when they fill up, I would use two others, etc., etc.
No one does all of that. But the more you have in your restore kit, the greater are your chances of recovery in the event of a failure.

I have separate data and Windows drives. I backup Windows every now and then, but I back up my data more often than that -- about once a month. In all honesty, that's all I can get myself to do; but at least it's something. I do have the original recovery disks, as well as a backup of when the computer was new.
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02 Feb 2018   #9
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

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A clone backup non-intelligently moves through the whole drive, backing up all of the bits of data exactly as they are laid out on the drive, including the empty space.
You must be using very old clone tools. Modern ones do intelligent clones ( with sector by sector as an option).

I suggest you look at Aomei.

Clone With AOMEI-clone1.jpg


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02 Feb 2018   #10
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

O&O ( no free version - Aomei is a better option for the OP ) offers 3 clone methods.

Clone With AOMEI-o-oclone.jpg


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