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Windows 7: AOMEI question to SIW2 about .iso disk with AOMEI Backupper 4.06

16 Feb 2018   #11
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

Yes, I was referring to drive label in Computer.

USB labels


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19 Feb 2018   #12
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
"....I'm going to totally wear out the only free USB port left that still works 100%"
One can purchase a female-to-male adapter that will take the hit for constant plugging things in and removing said things. Altex in Austin, just to use an example, sells them for about $5-6 apiece.
Thanks again RolandJS

I know you're busy, so I went around and researched this myself as best I can. I only posted it for confirmation its what you meant, and for others who come after me/you to find the same object if that fits their needs (even though the question I know does not lend itself to finding this answer hidden in here---but again I don't know your policy at making too many new posts on same subject with different outcomes?)

So thanks to you, this USB problem fixed! Still have other questions here but that was something I did not know that existed and so small too! Easy to leave it in port even if it dangles a bit .

I found four on Amazon for $8.59@

https://www.amazon.com/Pack-15cm-Adj...0+port+adapter

I know you know your stuff.... I guess I didn't describe my system that well as the only hit I got on
female-to-male adapter at Altex in Austin was this: https://www.altex.com/AdvancedSearch...dapter+USB+2.0

Mini is not what I have.

Ones I did not post that were overwhelming in number on various sites were called USB C (for 3.0 is what is commonly sold it seems to be the standard) My 2010 laptop is using 2.0 USB regular size (not even the "A" & "B" differential for which I use a longer cord 6" as one of the items I regularly plug and unplug from the USB Port and even a USB to "mini" I plug and unplug too, so I'm full of connectors---someday I'm going to lose data making too many wriggly connections and can't tape them solid as you want to be able to remove them.... So for all others with this problem (sorry RolandJS I could not rep you for that as I recently just did one for you but that idea deserves a rep even if I had to look for my particular model. You gave me the idea I was over-using my USB when I can wear out these instead and replace them!).
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19 Feb 2018   #13
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
Yes, I was referring to drive label in Computer.

USB labels
Thanks Snick, I get the idea....but these labels you linked to mostly (even the very sticky ones) don't work on "relay" drives company that slide in and out over the surface to retract and extend the USB male piece, and the "Gorilla" company flash drives have ripples on all surfaces to grab and rubber to provide G-shock protection and very little flat area to put a label, let alone write on them....

So wishing there was a way for us "humans" to see which of many flash drives has the contents we desire.. (short of my long worded future question about upgrading my HD to 1.5 + TB in a laptop, then I don't need any flash drives for a few more years!)

Here is a similar flash drive to what I mean above...256GB too. https://www.staples.com/Lexar-JumpDr...roduct_2420550

As you can see, the sliding case protects the USB drive from damage without needing separate cap (usually gets lost). But that reduces the space to write on adhesive label to a few handwritten words on the back of unit, if its flat---Gorilla Drive is not flat anywhere https://www.amazon.com/GorillaDrive-...SIN=B00FQT2BN4
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19 Feb 2018   #14
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

Why don't you place the contents of each USB thumb drive in its own folder, place the folders somewhere on your system and create shortcut links to them? You can rename the folders/shortcuts to identify each. If you don't have space on your internal drive, & want to be able to attach multiple thumb drives, a USB Hub is the solution there. Most are powered via USB port on computer and available from Ebay, Amazon, Micro-center, B&H Photo, etc. 2.5" HDD are real cheap, probably not much over the cost of a multi-port USB hub. You could then purchase a case with cable connector included and use the drive you replaced as an external hard drive and additional storage! 2.5" external drives are powered by the USB connection itself & doesn't require an additional power supply.
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19 Feb 2018   #15
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

If you are going to connect multiple USB devices to a hub and these devices rely on USB power then you should be using a powered hub not a passive hub. Examples of the type of devices are multiple USB flash drives and USB powered HDDs.
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19 Feb 2018   #16
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

He stated he is using USB thumbdrives, which don't require the power of an external 2.5" HDD or SSD, that and cost is the reason for my suggestion. External HDD requires the most power, SSD next, Flash/Thumb drive, very little.

Thank for the input! Always acceptable, anytime!
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20 Feb 2018   #17
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

USB flash drives can draw more current (or power if you like with a 5v rail) than you think. If you are going to plug in multiple flash drives I still recommend a powered hub.
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/diffe...ubs-71272.html
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23 Mar 2018   #18
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Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Hi Snick and mjf!!

APOLOGIES a lot for being away from keyboard here for a few weeks...

Will update you in a moment.

Excuses Excuses....was busy with new "Apple" product and its trial 2 week return period and more problems with it

Anyway, that is for another Forum.....

I have two questions!

1st is what are the rules here? Do I continue the topic we have begun here about Flash Drives and attaching them to a hub or not? Or should I move everything off (copying your and mine replies?) to a new thread so others can find it and users or members are not turned off by the AOMEI backup title I currently have...

(Improved title suggestions for the new thread are always welcome to make it clearer to others!)

2nd question.... about the Thumb Drives and hub.
Based upon the prior discussions above, before my 4 week absence,...I got an unpowered hub.
It works for many things.... (It does not work with the standard Apple 2.0 USB plug---so every time I backup or sync with new product using the Laptop described below in system and Windows 7 of course--I have to still unplug and re plug in the Apple USB in that one port I have left, and then unhook that and put back the USB plug with its hub----

So I'm still unhappy as its going to wear out my last good (available) USB 2.0 port.

So I still have questions about the old Laptop's now too small 500GB HDD [filled with data so only 30gb free!] inside the Laptop...

So this new question I'd write for this Forum, would become a hardware question more than a software (Windows7 ) question.

[Before I go further...I'm aware sadly that the expiration date for Windows 7 support is quickly approaching in 2020, April I think, so making this computer bigger is not a cost effective idea to hold all my additional new data under the Windows 7 operating system....hence....my using Flash Drives as cheats to take things off the laptop....but still running out of room as the tiny wordprocessing and photography items are still filling up the space!!] So its monetarily more attractive to try to enlarge the capacity of the "C" Drive inside the Laptop.

(I've seen You Tubes on "how" to physically do this---no problem there but what they do not reveal is I have still no idea how the licensed programs and their data is going to get from old HDD to new HDD or SSD without tremendous cost or being charged for new licenses as its a "new" drive the program keys detect!).

So maybe now you can understand how my simple "hardware" issue can become a complicated duplicating Windows 7 and its items "software" issue which is proper and appropriate for posting here. (again let me know what you think before I post the stuff in a new thread or here in greater detail) (Thanks!)

Snick says::

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
2.5" HDD are real cheap, probably not much over the cost of a multi-port USB hub. You could then purchase a case with cable connector included and use the drive you replaced as an external hard drive and additional storage! 2.5" external drives are powered by the USB connection itself & doesn't require an additional power supply.
and mjf replied:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
USB flash drives can draw more current (or power if you like with a 5v rail) than you think. If you are going to plug in multiple flash drives I still recommend a powered hub.
What Is the Difference Between Powered Non-Powered USB Hubs? | Chron.com
Which would be true if and when those "few" times (I mean like twice a year) I'm trying to copy from one flash drive to another and would have two flash drives plugged in at same moment, as I don't currently have room in my onboard laptop HDD to store the entire contents of one flash drive 32 GB or so and transfer it to another drive (remember most of these are "backups" using third party software....so there is nothing "smaller" to divide off and copy off in pieces...its one whole backup or "nothing" at all... Does this make sense? I can rewrite it again....if it does not make sense...

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To go backwards and reply to Snick again... thanks for the idea of the separate folders for each thumb drive.... I would love to have a 1.5 or larger TB HDD inside this Laptop!

(I already use the slow old 500GB HDD I took out the day this new Laptop was purchased as an external backup drive inside a case--but unfortunately I have to first ERASE my prior backup to put a new one on there with standard compression ---can't fit two 450 GB memories into one 500 GB unit! Even with Macrium which is the only Backup I have working as I never got my License number located for AOMEI to upgrade to 4.06 as this topic was originally about!)

About the installing of the HDD of a larger capacity. I can't see getting Windows 10 in a new laptop....why? I'd be here complaining about every single program that says it can't upgrade to the Windows 10 unless I get a new license as its a "new" computer...

Nothing against this but I realize that its just a function of the company: Microsoft making sure nobody copies a single program from one device to another without paying the price of admission for another year's worth of licenses such that I can't afford to even buy the cheapest new version of a laptop--when my computing power still requires Desktop with Co-processors etc Not even into 3D rendering yet and that technology is getting old already!.

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Thanks everyone here for reading and commenting on this problem!
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23 Mar 2018   #19
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

If your really off topic or posted in incorrect forum a SevenForum Administrator will delete off topic post or move incorrect forum thread to appropriate venue.

USB Hubs come in a variety of flavors unpowered, powered, and various numbers of USB ports on the hub. If you purchase a hub with more than a few 2-3 USB ports it should be powered. By the way, you can daisy chain (link one hub to another via USB port.

Why don't you purchase a USB 3.0 external hard drive, you can get 4tb of storage, see: Seagate external hard drives
You can purchase a portable (easily carry it with you) or one that sits on your desk, etc. on the cheap. I have a Seagate 3tb HDD USB 3.0 that I purchased 2 years ago which I keep my computers, both, backups on. I'd purchase an external hard drive HDD not solid state drive SSD due to the longevity of the device. SSDs tend to wear out quicker or, since it operates similar to a flash drive, data corruption.

Most 32 bit and 64 bit programs that will run on Win7 run on Win10. I have dual boot laptop, Win10 & Linux Lite on SSD, Win7 & Linux Lite on SSD. Have a plethora of apps, 100s M$ Office 2010 office 365, Office 2016, many IT tools, VMWare Workstation Player, etc., and every single program that runs on Win7 runs on Win10. I added larger HDD and or SSD and upgraded from Win7x64 to Win10x64. I have AOMEI Backupper images of both Windows versions and switch back and forth in my laptop by swapping SSDs. (8 screws, disconnect power cable, swap drive, connect power cable, 8 screws) good to go.

M$ has discontinued its free Win10 upgrade regular and more recently for visually impaired, however, you can purchase a retail copy of Win10 and from within Win7 run the DVD and perform an in place upgrade, saves all your programs, files, folder, pictures, music, video, everything and stores it in Windows.old file on your C drive.

I did an in place upgrade for my desktop and laptop. Didn't loose a single program or app, nada.

As for love to have a 1.5 or larger HDD in laptop, you can go to Crucial and use their app to scan your computer and automatically determine what and how much RAM you can use and what and size of SSD. Crucial Website

I have 2 crucial 1tb SSDs for my laptop and Samsung 850 Evo 2tb for my desktop with 4tb HDD as 2nd drive. Desktop is Quad core AMD so I oped for the faster more expensive Samsung. My Laptop has a dual core Intel, slower CPU front side bus, so the cheaper Crucials were the choice there.

Regarding your talking about backups, I use AOMEI Backupper free, which, as most all backup programs provide, ability to mount the backup image (it appears in computer as an additional hard drive) You can't add anything to the image but you can copy and paste most everything (some system files won't let you copy them this way) I have some older versions of programs that are in the download folder of prior images, that I access sometimes.

Several forum members recommend Macrium Reflect, which is a great program, but my experience has been that, those individuals with average computer skills find the GUI (graphical user interface a bit daunting trying to find/navigate the menu as there are many more options on the main and subsequent screens. It took me a few minutes looking over each screen and each new screen that opened clicking the various tabs/links etc. That's why, if I ascertain ones computer knowledge is minimal I recommend AOMEI Backupper free. I LIKE FREE!
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