Hacking W7 OS to tweak F11 behavior

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  1. Posts : 16,163
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       #21

    Doing so will free a Primary that I could assign to the RECOVERY partition !? yes ?
    Not easily. The Recovery partition is a logical drive inside an extended partition.

    You can have 3 primary and one extended. I can only see 2 mounted primary in your screenshot - the other has no drive letter and shows as 0mb

    You would need to move that recovery logical drive to one end of the extended partition, before it can be converted to primary.

    3rd party Partition managers can do this kind of thing, but it means moving a lot of data.

    What is that top primary listed as 0mb with no drive letter?

    You will have to provide a better screenshot - showing ALL partitions in bottom pane layout.

    Also provide a screenshot using diskgenius or any other 3rd party partition manager.
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  2. Posts : 40
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       #22

    Error from the pitcher...

    This is the correct partitions taken from inside the OS and not from the Live Hiren's USB stick :



    Will convert the RECOVERY partition to 'primary' and we'll continue from there...

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  3. Posts : 40
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    Thread Starter
       #23

    They don't want to convert the RECOVERY partition to 'primary' so I deleted the partition in order to recreate it as 'primary' but this also don't work... Does this structure makes it impossible to make it 'primary' ? hope not...



    iBenny
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  4. Posts : 40
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       #24

    SIW2 said:
    You would need to move that recovery logical drive to one end of the extended partition, before it can be converted to primary.
    Ok... got'ya ! Will move it at EOD (end of disk) tomorrow. Going to bed now...

    Best regards
    iBenny
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  5. Posts : 40
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       #25

    Hi

    Manage to push the RECOVERY partition at EOD BUT... now, when making it 'active', it don't boot anymore. All I can get is a black screen with a blinking cursor on top left.



    The BCD of the RECOVERY partition is :





    The BCD shown in post #12 is of the SYSTEM partition. Here is the BCD of the main Windows partition :



    I tried to add a "Recovery" entry with not much success.

    But failing to accessing the RECOVERY partition made 'active', is it the fault of the BCD ? of something else ?

    Best regards
    iBenny
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  6. Posts : 16,163
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       #26

    The bcd entries examples:


    Ramdisk: (wim file)

    Hacking W7 OS to tweak F11 behavior-ramdisk.jpg



    Partition: (Operating system)

    Hacking W7 OS to tweak F11 behavior-partition.jpg
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  7. Posts : 40
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    Thread Starter
       #27

    Hi SIW2

    I corrected the RECOVERY BCD to no avail. Still hitting the black screen with the blinking cursor. No boot process seams to even start (the sound of... silence!); we don't even get to the boot menu choice that should display.

    And for your next suggestion for the Windows partition BCD, I don't understand what you mean ? The OS Title is 'Windows 7', not for 'Recovery' and the partition it relates to is partition #1; C:\; 100G ! Does not look like a Recovery partition to me ! I did thought that suggestion but pointing the partition to my RECOVERY partition and naming the entry 'Recovery' but that choice does not work. There is no bootfile info pointing anywhere into the RECOVERY partition...

    Best regards
    iBenny
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  8. Posts : 16,163
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       #28

    You need a RAMDISK entry for the recovery. It should point at the boot.sdi file on the recovery partition, and the bootable wim file on the recovery partition.

    A Partition entry is for an already installed windows.
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  9. Posts : 16,163
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       #29

    On your other thread, you listed the contents of the recovery partition as follows:

    Code:
    "D:\Recovery\system32\Recovery\ReAgent.xml"
    "D:\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim" (271M, 1 partition)
    "D:\Recovery\WindowsRE\boot.sdi"
    "D:\boot\BCD"..... the recovery boot file
    "D:\boot\boot.sdi"
    "D:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD"
    "D:\EFI\Microsoft\Recovery\BCD"
    "D:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi"
    "D:\system.sav\preload\base.wim" (3.2G, 4 partitions)
    "D:\system.sav\FactoryUpdate\boot.wim" (246M, 1 partition)
    "D:\system.sav\FactoryUpdate\BOOT.SDI"
    Now you have moved the recovery partition - you say it has letter H.

    Now you have this:

    "H:\Recovery\system32\Recovery\ReAgent.xml"
    "H:\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim"
    "H:\Recovery\WindowsRE\boot.sdi"
    "H:\boot\BCD"
    "H:\boot\boot.sdi"
    "H:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD"
    "H:\EFI\Microsoft\Recovery\BCD"
    "H:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi"
    "H:\system.sav\preload\base.wim"
    "H:\system.sav\FactoryUpdate\boot.wim"
    "H:\system.sav\FactoryUpdate\BOOT.SDI"


    Is there a bootmgr on partition H ?
    Last edited by SIW2; 23 Dec 2018 at 23:13.
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  10. Posts : 16,163
    7 X64
       #30

    If you want to use H as the Active, system partition - you need bootmgr on the root.

    H:\bootmgr

    bootmgr will try and read the entries from the bcd store on the Active, system partition

    H:\boot\bcd

    You will need bcd entries pointing at

    1. Your windows partition ( so that you can boot into windows on partition C )

    Type: Put a dot in Partition
    Disk: Should be the Hard Disk in the top dropdown
    Partition: Should be partition C in the next dropdown
    File: nothing here
    SDI File: nothing here

    OS Title: Windows 7
    Boot File: \windows\system32\winload.exe

    Sys Root: \Windows
    Language: fr-FR

    Detect Hal should be ticked. Winpe should not be ticked

    Click SAVE current system

    AND

    2. A ramdisk entry ( so you can start the recovery process)


    Type: Put a dot in Ramdisk
    Disk: Should be the Hard Disk in the top dropdown
    Partition: Should be partition H in the next dropdown

    FILE: \Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim
    SDI FILE: \Recovery\WindowsRE\boot.sdi

    TITLE: Whatever you want - HP Recovery is fine
    Boot File: \Windows\System32\Boot\winload.exe
    Sys Root: \Windows
    Language: fr-FR

    Detect Hal and Winpe should both be ticked

    Click SAVE current system

    BootIce.zip
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