Image your system with free Macrium


  1. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #1951

    As LF has stated you want to keep your OS/installed programs partition separate from your large data partitions. The reason is that you mainly image your OS partition and you want to limit its size (say ~60GB or less) so that system imaging takes ~10 min or less. This way you can easily make regular system images and restore them in a reasonable time. I keep numerous system images and if things go bad (eg. malware or a bad update) I can go back as far as I like until I get a stable image.

    I've always used Macrium system imaging to transfer HDD to SSD. Cloning is ok but you should use the drag and drop method to maintain alignment:
    Understanding partition alignment - KnowledgeBase - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase
    You probably can use the rescue boot CD for this purpose but I would probably just use the installed Macrium.

    In any transfer if alignment is out the the free Partition Wizard software will fix it for you.
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  2. Posts : 183
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       #1952

    My HDD is MBR, I guess that the new out of the box SSD I'll buy will be MBR as well, when I clone the HDD to it. If that means alignment and triw will be fine I'm happy. I will use Rescue media and am guessing it will work exactly as if I'd do it in the program itself. I always chack the Auto Verify option and Intelligent Sector Copy, thanx.

    I always clone/image the whole drive too. But yes, I'd like to merge both partitions because my OS partition is too small and I don't need two partitions. I want one single C partition for OS and data.
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  3. Posts : 10,455
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #1953

    I'm pretty sure that you can't use Macrium to merge partitions. There is however a function to do that with Minitool Partition Wizard.

    Caveat I have never used this feature myself so cannot say how good it is.
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  4. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #1954

    Hi,
    Had fun yesterday setting up reflect and using the winpe recovery cd on my mom's dell win-8 now 10 machine
    Boot cd was the funnest boot order was whack and of course secure boot had to be changed before the press any key to boot to the cd would work :)
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  5. Posts : 9,600
    Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
       #1955

    Bellzemos said:
    My HDD is MBR, I guess that the new out of the box SSD I'll buy will be MBR as well, when I clone the HDD to it. If that means alignment and triw will be fine I'm happy. I will use Rescue media and am guessing it will work exactly as if I'd do it in the program itself. I always chack the Auto Verify option and Intelligent Sector Copy, thanx.

    I always clone/image the whole drive too. But yes, I'd like to merge both partitions because my OS partition is too small and I don't need two partitions. I want one single C partition for OS and data.
    The new out of the box SSD will not be initialized and formatted. Before you can clone it, you will have to initialize and format it. During formatting, you can choose either MBR or GPT. Since your HDD is MBR, that's what you need to format the SSD to.

    Why are you insisting on using the rescue media to clone the HDD to the SSD? Do you just like doing things the hard way? I can't think of reason to use the rescue media for anything other than restoring an image to a drive that is too messed up to boot or to a drive that is replacing one that has died.

    You still haven't told us why you want to combine your OS and data partitions. If you have both your data and OS on the same drive/partition, you will be wasting a lot of time and storage space when you image the drive, reducing the number of previous images that you can keep. There are only two ways to backup System (OS and programs) files; imaging and cloning. Cloning takes longer and you can have only one clone on a drive or partition, severely limiting the number of backups you can have. Imaging is a little faster and you can store multiple images on a drive or partition.

    For data, however, other than for replicating a drive (such as moving data from a smaller drive to a larger one; for that cloning is ideal), cloning and imaging is too time consuming and wastes too much space since you are repeatedly backing up data that you have already backed up before. It is much faster to use a folder/file syncing programs such as SyncToy or FreeFileSync (I personally prefer the latter although SyncToy has a good reputation) set to Mirror mode (not the same as RAID 1). Once you make the initial backup (that will take time since it is basically a copy of the data drive/partition), every time you update your backup, a folder/file syncing program will examine both your data drive/partition and the backup drive, then copy, paste and delete files as necessary (without touching the original drive/partition) to make the backup essentially an exact copy of the drive/partition being backed up. Since only folders and files that have been added, changed, or deleted since the previous backups, the process is much faster and involves far less writing to the backup drive. FreeFileSync also has an optional provision that will allow you to send deleted files to a versioning folder or drive. That way, you can retrieve earlier versions of files or ones you accidentally deleted (we have all done it at one time or another).

    My notebooks are little one drive wonders so I have to use the same drive for my System and data files. Both of them have 500GB SSDs in them. Each one has a small partition (100GB) for the OS and programs. My data is kept on another partition. Since my System and data files are segregated, I can use Macrium Reflect to image my System partition. I keep a few images in the data partition for convenience (normally, it is a bad idea to keep images on the same drive with the System but I get away with it since the data partition, including the images, gets backed up). It takes less than ten minutes to image and verify the image. I use FreeFileSync to backup the data partition to a backup drive I keep in my notebook case.

    In the case of my desktop computer, I have a 128GB SSD for my boot drive. Up to recently, I had two 2TB and one 4TB HDDs in the computer I kept my data on (I've since replaced the HDDs with four 4TB SSDs). It takes about 10-12 minutes to image the boot drive. I make an image only when I make a change to the System, such as updating the OS or programs, installing a new program, changing settings, etc. (I make the image prior to the change so I can go back if something goes horribly wrong). I have Macrium Reflect set to delete any images that are older than eight weeks.

    I use FreeFileSync to update my data backups once a week and any time I add or change data that I can't afford to lose. If I used imaging or cloning, each update would take hours instead just minutes. I would also lose any previously deleted files and earlier versions of files. Considering I have three data drives I'm backing up (I haven't put any data on the fourth drive...yet), it would take me all day instead of less than an hour or (rarely) two to backup the computer, even if each drive and only a few KB of new, changed, or deleted data (keep in mind I use my computer to record OTA TV shows so I have quite a few large video files to backup as well as my images).
    Last edited by Lady Fitzgerald; 19 Feb 2017 at 13:04.
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  6. Posts : 10,455
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #1956

    Lady Fitzgerald said:
    The new out of the box SSD will not be initialized and formatted. Before you can clone it, you will have to initialize and format it. During formatting, you can choose either MBR or GPT. Since your HDD is MBR, that's what you need to format the SSD to.

    Why are you insisting on using the rescue media to clone the HDD to the SSD? Do you just like doing things the hard way? I can't think of reason to use the rescue media for anything other than restoring an image to a drive that is too messed up to boot or to a drive that is replacing one that has died.

    You still haven't told us why you want to combine your OS and data partitions. If you have both your data and OS on the same drive/partition, you will be wasting a lot of time and storage space when you image the drive, reducing the number of previous images that you can keep. There are only two ways to backup System (OS and programs) files; imaging and cloning. Cloning takes longer and you can have only one clone on a drive or partition, severely limiting the number of backups you can have. Imaging is a little faster and you can store multiple images on a drive or partition.

    For data, however, other than for replicating a drive (such as moving data from a smaller drive to a larger one; for that cloning is ideal), cloning and imaging is too time consuming and wastes too much space since you are repeatedly backing up data that you have already backed up before. It is much faster to use a folder/file syncing programs such as SyncToy or FreeFileSync (I personally prefer the latter although SyncToy has a good reputation) set to Mirror mode (not the same as RAID 1). Once you make the initial backup (that will take time since it is basically a copy of the data drive/partition), every time you update your backup, a folder/file syncing program will examine both your data drive/partition and the backup drive, then copy, paste and delete files as necessary (without touching the original drive/partition) to make the backup essentially an exact copy of the drive/partition being backed up. Since only folders and files that have been added, changed, or deleted since the previous backups, the process is much faster and involves far less writing to the backup drive. FreeFileSync also has an optional provision that will allow you to send deleted files to a versioning folder or drive. That way, you can retrieve earlier versions of files or ones you accidentally deleted (we have all done it at one time or another).
    I agree totally with LF on FreeFileSync. I have 300,000+ data files and it scans and backs up the changes in just a few minutes when run daily.
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  7. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #1957

    Bellzemos said:
    But yes, I'd like to merge both partitions because my OS partition is too small ...
    A disk management screenshot may help with further advice.
    Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image
    There may be a good reason to increase the size of your OS partition and (free) Partition Wizard is your best tool - MiniTool is the installed version and there is also a bootable CD version.
    You have been advised that storing large amounts of data on your OS partition generally doesn't make any sense.
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  8. Posts : 60
    Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit, SP1
       #1958

    harpua said:
    Several people have reported success with the Windows backup and restore utility in 7. Unfortunately, it gave an error for me when I tried to restore an image I made with it which made me hesitant to rely on it. But if one tests it by attempting to restore an image made with it and the restore works, and if one is satisfied with the feature set and options available, then it's probably a great way to go.
    I have saved a backup image of my hard drive on my secondary (D:) and external drive and would like to test it, how can I do that? I am also in the process of using Macrium as a backup to the 7 backup.
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  9. Posts : 60
    Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit, SP1
       #1959

    whs said:
    I posted this on the Vista forum. But since it works just as well on Windows7, I post it here too.

    Image your system with free Macrium

    Over the years I have experimented with different imaging programs. I started out with Norton Ghost which works very well, but is quite heavy handed. Backup and restore cycles are usually approximately one hour and it takes quite some time before you understand the intricacies of the product. I have also used Paragon and Acronis true Image. Both of those are in the same league as Ghost. They do provide though a large collection of function – which, I guess, is part of the reason why they are complex and slow.
    One that is easy is the Maxtor One Touch Manager that comes with the Maxtor One Touch Disks. My wife loves it because once it is set up, all you have to do is push the button on the One Touch Disk and off it goes.
    Not quite the same but very easy is Macrium. Below you find the four steps to set it up and the one step to run it thereafter. You will notice that the handling of Macrium is as easy as can be. To download the free Macrium, you go to this site:

    http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

    There is also a paid version with more functions. But for the normal backup/restore, the free version is sufficient.
    I did not document the restore function, in part, because I cannot take any screenshots during that phase. But it is very simple and self explanatory. All you need to do is set your BIOS boot sequence to boot from your CD reader, put the CD in (the one you burnt – see the first picture) and off it goes. The CD loads a Linux based Wizard that will guide you thru a few simple questions.
    Performance when you take the image should be in the 10 minute range for an average system. Restore is about 20 minutes without prior image verification and twice as long with prior image verification













    I just burned Rescue Media via Macrium Reflect to a CD, not DVD and to my external HD, is this just one part of the process and requires more on my part to have everything I need to restore later? Also, before I copied it to an external, it said 'target USB disk has a non-standard sector size, this device may not be bootable". Then "Rescue Media was successfully created, please boot this new rescue media to ensure it works". How can I do that?
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  10. Posts : 9,746
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
       #1960

    I just burned Rescue Media via Macrium Reflect to a CD, not DVD and to my external HD, is this just one part of the process and requires more on my part to have everything I need to restore later? Also, before I copied it to an external, it said 'target USB disk has a non-standard sector size, this device may not be bootable". Then "Rescue Media was successfully created, please boot this new rescue media to ensure it works". How can I do that?
    You don't need the rescue media on your external hard drive only on a CD. The CD is necessary to be able to boot the computer in the event of a major recovery. However, it is essential that you test it.

    To do that shut down the computer, plug in the external hard drive, load the CD & restart the computer, hitting F8 or whatever key is necessary on the laptop to get to the boot menu & select the CD. After a short while it will display a menu & you should be able to find your external hard drive & also the particular image you wish to install. Don't install it unless you have a problem.
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