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Windows 7: Image your system with free Macrium

25 Aug 2011   #221
stonebear

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I installed Paragon (Advanced) Free yesterday and it didn't add a partition, it does use some kind of virtual thing I think (wasn't paying attention).


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25 Aug 2011   #222
JDH1

Windows 7 Home x64
 
 

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You can put all your partitions in the same backup file with Macrium but you have to restore them one at a time.
I don't know whether one backup file would be more or less confusing than using separate folders and separate files. WHS's recent post (#213) explains his reasoning on this quite well. I want to go over WHS's tutorial materials today -- hopefully things will make more sense to me after that <g>!

A different but related matter here is using Macrium to go from a HDD to an SSD. Obviously they have dissimilar structures, so maybe this is impossible to do. However if I eventually have three separate image files of the three partitions I now have on one physical HDD, I hope I will somehow be able to transfer all these to one physical SSD.
Yes I see your point. I have 4 partitions on my laptop internal HDD. I backup Recovery and HP tools together because they wont change and do System and C together regularly because they are a "working set". Other disks I do file and folder backups as and when needed (I have the paid version).
It sounds like your situation is quite similar to mine. On my single internal laptop HDD, I have two partitions which I believe will not change daily, and one which will (obviously C.
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25 Aug 2011   #223
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Reasons to get the paid Macrium.

1. Incremental / Differential backups.
2. File and folder backup.
3. In version 5 cloning.
4. The WinPE recovery disk.

I got it mainly for the file and folder backup and the WinPE recovery disk (The linux disk didn't recognize my backup drive consistently).
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25 Aug 2011   #224
JDH1

Windows 7 Home x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stonebear View Post
I installed Paragon (Advanced) Free yesterday and it didn't add a partition, it does use some kind of virtual thing I think (wasn't paying attention).
So Paragon does add a virtual drive. I wonder why? Regardless, even it it were temporary, that could get confusing if it meant that drive letters were changed. And if it were permanent, this would be even worse.
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25 Aug 2011   #225
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

jdh1, answers to your earlier questions:

1. I never had a need for the paid Macrium. For me the free version is full function.

2. For moving the OS from the HDD to the SSD, see my tutorial on the matter. If you have further questions,, let me know.

PS: If you open Macrium images (just double click on an image file), you also get a virtual drive. But it disappears with a reboot.
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25 Aug 2011   #226
JDH1

Windows 7 Home x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
Reasons to get the paid Macrium.

1. Incremental / Differential backups.
2. File and folder backup.
3. In version 5 cloning.
4. The WinPE recovery disk.

I got it mainly for the file and folder backup and the WinPE recovery disk (The linux disk didn't recognize my backup drive consistently).
My habit is to do full backups, so item #1 isn't much of a benefit for me.

On item #2, can't you retrieve single files and/or folders as needed from a Macrium full backup file? Ghost has a tool for this called "Ghost Explorer", so I hoped Macrium would allow this too. Maybe I have your meaning backwards though. Maybe you mean that paid-for Macrium lets you ~backup~ less than whole partitions, down to files and folders?

On item #3, I find cloning and imaging confusing since in my frame of reference (Ghost.exe) they are more or less the same thing. Evidently not with Macrium though. I suspect cloning means backing up a whole drive to one file even if that one physical drive has multiple partitions, whereas imaging means backing up up one partition at a time to individual files. Do I have this correct or is cloning something entirely different?

On item #4, I have read that the kind of recovery disk a program makes is important due to compatibility issues. Some favor (or bad mouth) Linux, some like BartPE, and now you have mentioned WinPE. Is the paid Macrium's WinPE based recovery disk an important benefit, something I would want? If so, I will certainly get the paid version.
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25 Aug 2011   #227
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JDH1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
Reasons to get the paid Macrium.

1. Incremental / Differential backups.
2. File and folder backup.
3. In version 5 cloning.
4. The WinPE recovery disk.

I got it mainly for the file and folder backup and the WinPE recovery disk (The linux disk didn't recognize my backup drive consistently).
My habit is to do full backups, so item #1 isn't much of a benefit for me.

On item #2, can't you retrieve single files and/or folders as needed from a Macrium full backup file? Ghost has a tool for this called "Ghost Explorer", so I hoped Macrium would allow this too. Maybe I have your meaning backwards though. Maybe you mean that paid-for Macrium lets you ~backup~ less than whole partitions, down to files and folders?

On item #3, I find cloning and imaging confusing since in my frame of reference (Ghost.exe) they are more or less the same thing. Evidently not with Macrium though. I suspect cloning means backing up a whole drive to one file even if that one physical drive has multiple partitions, whereas imaging means backing up up one partition at a time to individual files. Do I have this correct or is cloning something entirely different?

On item #4, I have read that the kind of recovery disk a program makes is important due to compatibility issues. Some favor (or bad mouth) Linux, some like BartPE, and now you have mentioned WinPE. Is the paid Macrium's WinPE based recovery disk an important benefit, something I would want? If so, I will certainly get the paid version.
On Item 2. Yes you can very easily. Yje point of the file and folders backup is that I use it on data on external drives and I wouldn't want to image the whole drive every time I wanted to back up some files. It just adds to the flexibility.

On item 3. In Macriums case this is essentially copying one drive to another block for block.

On item 4. Test out the linux recovery first. If it works for you that's fine otherwise a WinPE recovery disk will probably be necessary. I V5 allows you to create a WinPE recovery disk provided you download the WAIK first. Version 4 didn't. I'm not sure which version the free is at the moment.
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25 Aug 2011   #228
JDH1

Windows 7 Home x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
jdh1, answers to your earlier questions:

1. I never had a need for the paid Macrium. For me the free version is full function.

2. For moving the OS from the HDD to the SSD, see my tutorial on the matter. If you have further questions,, let me know.

PS: If you open Macrium images (just double click on an image file), you also get a virtual drive. But it disappears with a reboot.
Okay, I will read your tutorial on the SSD question.

I tend to dislike the virtual drive letter, but as you say, maybe it's no big deal if it's temporary. Still, it really depends on how Macrium does this. If the new virtual drive letter is inserted logically at the end of all the existing drive letters, no problem (actually in that case it wouldn't be problematical even if it the new drive was permanent). But if Macrium always creates the virtual drive as letter D:, and so bumps all the existing drive letters down the alphabet by one letter, I'd find that less acceptable.

This was just mentioned in another post... Do you see a benefit to the WinPE recovery disk available via the paid version of Macrium?
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25 Aug 2011   #229
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Macrium selects a free drive letter and also gives you the option to change it.
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25 Aug 2011   #230
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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If the new virtual drive letter is inserted logically at the end of all the existing drive letters, no problem
That's what it does.

I never had a need for the WinPE yet. But if you have external disks attached to USB3, that may be required. The Linux recovery disk does not support USB3 yet. But I understand it will support it with the next version.
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