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  1. Posts : 10,455
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #1641

    I can't but they are showing with a size. I guess that Macrium will tell us that they are really empty.
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  2. BJB
    Posts : 188
    Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
       #1642

    Mine shows at 3.6GB so it matters whether it contains data or not. Think I'll take a normal image, then delete the page file and hiberfile using a boot disk and then take another image. My money is on them not taking up any meaningful space.
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  3. Posts : 10,455
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #1643
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  4. BJB
    Posts : 188
    Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
       #1644

    Seems to be so - the test I carried out, firstly with the page file in and secondly with it removed, there was a difference of just 164MB in the image files. Windows wasn't booted in between the tests (to prevent it from recreating the page file) so the only difference between the two was the deletion of the page file.
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  5. Posts : 11
    Win 7 X64
       #1645

    very easy, just mount the image in explorer and look at it with a hex editor or any file lister.

    As for the answer given at Macrium, it's very confusing to say the least.

    I believe them, but what is the data that is showing up when the file is examined? It seems to have the same 'header' from one backup to the next, so its consistent. All kinds of data that sure looks like swapfile to me.

    Is it data from other files on the backup or what? I'd have expected to see blanks if the file was truly empty, but maybe there's something about this I don't quite get.
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  6. Posts : 24,479
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
       #1646

    I would guess the pagfile.sys and hiberfill.sys are placeholders and need since they are system files. Probably like an new but formatted drive has several MB of used space for the file system.
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  7. Posts : 10,455
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #1647

    A description of what a sparse file is. Sparse file - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  8. Posts : 24,479
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
       #1648

    Thanks Keith, it explains why they would appear to have data in them.
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  9. Posts : 11
    Win 7 X64
       #1649

    "When reading sparse files, the file system transparently converts metadata representing empty blocks into "real" blocks filled with zero bytes at runtime. The application is unaware of this conversion."

    Still doesnt make sense to me. Not seeing zeros . Sorry. Maybe my system is doing something odd here.
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  10. Posts : 24,479
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
       #1650

    How are you opening pagfile.sys?
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