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Windows 7: Macrium users: have you tried an image restore??

11 Dec 2009   #11
SIW2

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Not sure what you mean by "forced to", as if it is a bad thing.

Yes, free users use the boot disc to restore - unless thay are dual booting and can therefore boot into the other o/s partiton and restore from there, if they prefer.

Restoring by using the boot disc is perfectly normal and valid with any imaging app. , and very quick and easy.

Many people prefer to restore from the boot disc, whatever app. they are using, and whatever other options they may have.

I am confused as to why you think there is something wrong with that.

Imaging is for disaster recovery purposes.

Typically, either:

1) Something goes horribly wrong with the o/s, so you decide to restore an image. It is not unusual in these cases that you can't even get to the boot menu. In which case, the boot menu option is useless.

2)The HD dies, so you decide to restore an image stored externally to a new HD. Again, the boot menu option option is useless.

Having the restore program on an external bootable media, e.g cd or flash drive is always the safest and most reliable way.

That is why all imaging apps will therefore have a method for creating a bootable cd/flash drive.

Some ( mostly the paid versions) will have additional ways of accessing the restore program. They don't all offer the same additional methods. Some may find them convenient in certain situations.

If you look at the Macrium screenshot, it clearly states that additional option is only available with the registered (i.e. paid ) version.

However, the only reliable method is using an external bootable device such as cd/flash drive.

Hope it helps


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11 Dec 2009   #12
HughShaw

Windows 7 Professional (x64)
 
 

Who would want to use an imaging software that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't? That would be devastating to have it not work when you need it the most...
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11 Dec 2009   #13
SIW2

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HughShaw View Post
Who would want to use an imaging software that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't? That would be devastating to have it not work when you need it the most...

What are you referring to?
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11 Dec 2009   #14
ignatzatsonic

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SIW2:

Thanks for the clarification.

I was led astray by not seeing any mention in the documentation for the Free version that I would in fact have to use the rescue CD.

I certainly DON'T think there is anything wrong with that. I just was unclear that it was required.

I did see that reference to the boot menu being available only with the "registered" version. If it had said "retail version" or something similar, I may have drawn the proper inference. Or I may have remained confused by the lack of a pointed comment in the documentation that Free users MUST use the rescue disk.

And my perception was colored by my use of Acronis 5 or 6 years ago. That was a retail version and I don't think I had to use a rescue disk.

At any rate, thanks for setting me straight. I have not actually attempted a restore with the disc for fear of getting in a jam--"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"--and it ain't broke right now.

So--if I boot to that disc, is there any way I can confirm that a restore would be successful if I only pushed this one last button?? Or do I in fact have to restore and hope it worked? I'd guess the latter, but would prefer the former. I think I "verified" the image when I made it--for what that is worth.
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11 Dec 2009   #15
johnwillyums

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Thanks for those posts SIW2. I've never done restore from an image and I'm a lot clearer about it now.
I suppose I can choose between Macrium or Windows 7s own app as gregrocker recommends.

Cheers, John
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11 Dec 2009   #16
SIW2

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Hi ig,

It's certainly a good idea to at the very least boot the cd and find the image , then select where to restore it to. It won't actually start to restore unless you click "Finish".

So, if you don't want to try a restore , just click "Cancel" at that point.

That makes sure the cd has the right drivers and recognizes everything.


Hi John,

I prefer Macrium as it allows you to select which partition(s) to image , and where to restore them to. It is also twice the speed of the Windows System Image app. and offers much better compression ( medium compression is pretty good).

It has a couple of other tricks, too. You can select to restore the image as Primary or Logical partition, and Active or not. You can also select whether or not to restore the mbr at the same time.


Paragon has a new free imaging app. as well. It will be very good as it has a lot more functions than the other freebies.

There are a couple of bugs in it atm , a new build is expected soon.
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11 Dec 2009   #17
ignatzatsonic

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OK--that pretty well clears it up.

My last question:

When do I need to make a new upgraded rescue disk? Or will the original disc work indefinitely and allow me to access and restore an image I might make 4 years from today--ignoring natural deterioration of the disk over extended time periods. Since it is a Linux disk, I assume it should work on Windows 14 or on a DVD drive I have yet to buy?
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11 Dec 2009   #18
SIW2

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I dunno if it will work with windows 14. LOL.

New releases of Macrium come with updated boot disc , they still recognize previous mrimg files, so no trouble restoring images made with previous versions of Macrium.
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11 Dec 2009   #19
HughShaw

Windows 7 Professional (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HughShaw View Post
Who would want to use an imaging software that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't? That would be devastating to have it not work when you need it the most...

What are you referring to?
I'm referring to Macrium. Didn't some users say the image restore didn't work?
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11 Dec 2009   #20
SIW2

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

No, the OP didn't know the image is restored via the boot disc with the free version.

The extra option to access the restore program from WinPe ramdisk is only in the paid version.

That's not to say it will work for everyone. No program ever developed does that.

Plenty can't get Windows System image to work properly , for example.

You will find the same with Paragon , Acronis, etc. - hard to say if it is a strange hardware /software incompatibility, or if the user isn't doing it right.
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