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Windows 7: System Restore never creates 'am system checkpoint'

08 Mar 2009   #11
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello.


This is the third system/OS (two different machines) that does not create restore points automatically; the first was an OEM HP machine with 32-bit Vista Home P, the second and third are this system with 64-bit Vista Ultimate and now Windows 7 7048 installed (none of the earlier builds did either); none of which ever creates restore points except when I create them with the afore mentioned tutorials.

There's also THIS to stop the XP dual boot delete of restore points.











Later Ted
I'm familiar with another method while the free tool for that intended for Vista/XP dual boots is still in it's own beta form apparently placed on hold by the looks of it. [ame="http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1341"][Download] Vista Hide 'n Seek BETA - The NeoSmart Forums[/ame]

The MS page there is also one consideration while not wishing to make Vista or 7 invisible while booted in XP for various reasons. But that means still putting up with...



NOT SO GOOD:
The registry entry seen at the MS page as well as the instant restore point mod unfortunately failed here and still sees Vista and 7 points wiped. 7 presently being seen as D with Vista on another as G didn't help there.

After confirming the entry was seen in the XP registry both the 7 and Vista primaries were still accessible not off limits according to the MS page.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
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08 Mar 2009   #12
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Camineet
Well, what about using that tutorial to create the shortcut, and then running the shortcut as a daily task in the task scheduler? Is that possible?
Hello Camineet.


I know that this can be done as a written script, but this is something that I have never taken the time to figure out as it's just easier to add THIS (Option One, #2) to the start menu, startup folder to create a restore point at boot up, I also have a shortcut for this on the desktop to create a restore point with one click.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
I'm familiar with another method while the free tool for that intended for Vista/XP dual boots is still in it's own beta form apparently placed on hold by the looks of it. [Download] Vista Hide 'n Seek BETA - The NeoSmart Forums

The MS page there is also one consideration while not wishing to make Vista or 7 invisible while booted in XP for various reasons. But that means still putting up with...



NOT SO GOOD:
The registry entry seen at the MS page as well as the instant restore point mod unfortunately failed here and still sees Vista and 7 points wiped. 7 presently being seen as D with Vista on another as G didn't help there.

After confirming the entry was seen in the XP registry both the 7 and Vista primaries were still accessible not off limits according to the MS page.
Hello Night Hawk.


I've known about this and I've been wanting to give the MS info a go, but I have so much going on now it's hard to find the time to start something new, besides, I'm afraid XP is a dying entity.

Thank you for the input.


Later Ted
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08 Mar 2009   #13
Camineet

Build 7000
 
 

Hi Bare Foot Kid,

A script is necessary? That doesn't sound quite right. I'm no expert, but I would think that any shortcut should successfully run.

Just to get my hands dirty and get some first time experience with Task Scheduler, I created a shortcut of an mp3 song. Then I created a new task and added an action. The action was to run a program. I clicked browse and chose the shortcut to the mp3 song. Then in the list of tasks I right clicked the newly created task and enabled it. Then I right clicked it and chose Run. The song played.

Why won't the Create Restore Point shortcut work without a script?

One more thing I should add - unless I'm reading your message wrong, I should mention that I really want to have Restore Points be automatically created without me having to restart my system.

Thanks for your help so far.
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08 Mar 2009   #14
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Camineet View Post

Why won't the Create Restore Point shortcut work without a script?
Hello again.


There's one way to find out, give it a go; but if it takes you "one" click to activate the task, wouldn't it be easier to just use the instant restore point creator I linked? That way you could have a point created at boot up and a shortcut on the desktop as well for use when needed.

Be sure to keep us informed what you come up with!






Later Ted
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08 Mar 2009   #15
Camineet

Build 7000
 
 

What I mean is, that I would like to use the tutorial you linked. And then once I have that shortcut, I'd like to create a task that is scheduled to run everyday at a certain time. It seems to me like it should work, but I would like to have gotten some kind of confirmation from a qualified expert or at least someone with more expertise than me, which is most anyone on this kind of forum.

I've become so fearful of installations that I exhaust all possible inquiries before actually 'just trying things'. But I guess that's what I'll be doing on this one.

As far as the value of the shortcut goes, I'm not so convinced. It's another installation on top of all the other apps I need in order to run my company and enjoy media on my pc, and all this additional installation does is save me the trouble of hitting the start key and typing 'create restore point' and then clicking a few more times and typing in a name. I'd prefer the extra 5 clicks or so if I'm going to do a manual create restore point. But since I really need my system to be automatically creating 'am system checkpoints' like 'ole XP did for me, I'm willing to install this script and create a scheduled task from the shortcut it generates.

Not that I wish to differ with you for any reason. I'm just making some intelligent(?) debate about the value of the script
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08 Mar 2009   #16
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello.


Don't be concerned about having a different opinion, you know what is said about opinions ...

Seriously, I tried all you're working on in my old 32-bit Vista to no avail; I never did get it to create restore points on its own and I tried everything. Who knows, Windows 7 may be different than Vista in that it will create restore points through the task scheduler as it's supposed to do.


Like I said, I'll be interested to see your outcome.










Later Ted
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08 Mar 2009   #17
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello Night Hawk.


I've known about this and I've been wanting to give the MS info a go, but I have so much going on now it's hard to find the time to start something new, besides, I'm afraid XP is a dying entity.

Thank you for the input.


Later Ted
Unfortunately I still need XP running here since the tuner card industry never bother to write softwares for seeing video recorded or captured in Vista. I'm able to get the picture and sound working on 7 as well as Vista with the updated driver but forget about the software side!

For the instant restore point mod I pinned the shortcut to the 7 taskbar and no go there. Instead you see a script icon appear and nothing happens when clicked. Repeat sets of restore points still get wiped for the weekly boot into XP while Vista and 7 are the default OSs on each drive depending which is set as default.

The other mentioned before hides Vista from XP making any Vista partition vanish from view. That seems to how that protects Vista restore points. Here however I still want access to Vista and 7 partitions for moving copy files back and forth for various programs being tried out on 7 without a major fuss. So much for restore points however.
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08 Mar 2009   #18
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello Night Hawk.


According to this, restore points are only viable for a short period of time. Besides, every time I've needed a restore point, it's something that I've just fubared right then so I don't ever have need of "old" points anyway.

System Restore "restore points" are missing or deleted













Later Ted
My System SpecsSystem Spec
08 Mar 2009   #19
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello Night Hawk.


According to this, restore points are only viable for a short period of time. Besides, every time I've needed a restore point, it's something that I've just fubared right then so I don't ever have need of "old" points anyway.

System Restore "restore points" are missing or deleted













Later Ted
You know that as well as I do. I used to dual boot with older versions where there were no restore points to even consider! 3.1/95, 95/98, later 98/XP followed by the XP/Vista now XP/Vista/7 etc.

I was simply pointing out that nothing seems to prevent loss with custom setups across more then one drve apparently. It would have been nice to see 7 get past that problem however.
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08 Mar 2009   #20
wmacdona

Windows 7 x64 7000
 
 
Task scheduler service hung and will not start or stop

The Task Scheduler service along with all of it's dependent services will not stop or start.
Related services are
RPC call
DCOM launcher

This was observed right after a clean install and before anything else was done.


I presume this is the reason I dont get a daily system restore and maybe why the reliability monitor is not working.

Windows 7 x64

Anybody seen this or have a solution.
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