Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Backup Software - Use Built-In Windows 7 or Other?

07 Mar 2010   #11
PJStyles

Windows 7
 
 

I also couldn't help but notice this comment in the Acronis True Image guide:

"An incremental or differential backup created after a disk is defragmented might be considerably larger than usual. This is because the defragmentation program changes file locations on the disk and the backups reflect these changes. Therefore, it is recommended that you re-create a full backup after disk defragmentation."

I understand why... but that would be silly for me since I have a weekly scheduled defrag each Sunday. What I'm looking for is simply to backup all my important files ie: Pictures, Videos, MP3's etc and then run a backup each week that will only update, store or re-write those files that changed or that have been added to the monitored folders. Any suggestions?


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
07 Mar 2010   #12
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

afa the image backup goes.. before you depend on it, create the Restore CD and boot it. Does the restore program see your HD? If not, you can be stuck completely, or stuck with a super slow "compatibility mode" restore(meaning it can take 10 times longer than normal!)

The "best" image backup program is one you can boot the Restore CD and restore from at normal speed on your hardware.

afa backing up ordinary files, I often use FreeCommander. It has a directory Sync function where you can compare folders optionally including subfolders, and sync them in both directions. It's 32 bit but has a lot of nice features.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Mar 2010   #13
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PJStyles View Post
Are there any other programs that would allow me to backup the files in actual usable files without mounting issues? I like the idea of the actual file being available as opposed to having to go through some extra steps to restore them. However, using a command line program isn't what I'm looking for.

I was hoping for a more GUI interface to backup files. Would Acronis or any of the others provide the same functionality as Robocopy?

Thanks

PJStyles
Look at either
1). Microsoft Sync Toy
2). Karen's file Replicator

Both utilize robocopy on the backside....but have a GUI interface to make it easier.


As far as a batch file goes at the command line, it's easy. Create a file with notepad, give it a .bat extension

robocopy C:\datafolder E:\backup\datafolder /MIR
robocopy C:\musicfolder E:\backups\musicfolder /MIR


Run the batch file. It does the directories recursively, so if you data is sorted out, you often only have to have a handful of these lines, one right after another to back up everything important.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

07 Mar 2010   #14
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Mar 2010   #15
PJStyles

Windows 7
 
 

Great point!! I've decided to just stick with the built-in Backup and Restore utility in Windows 7. I've created the boot disc and made my first full backup. Going to test the boot disc to see if I can see my USB Drive which is where I backed up my files.

Thanks

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
The "best" image backup program is one you can boot the Restore CD and restore from at normal speed on your hardware.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Mar 2010   #16
PJStyles

Windows 7
 
 

That's exactly what I was looking for. I suppose I wouldn't need to run a regular backup using the Backup and Restore if I'm using Microsoft Sync Toy since it will automatically copy files over that aren't on the backup drive ie: newly created/saved files?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post

1). Microsoft Sync Toy
My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Mar 2010   #17
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PJStyles View Post
Great point!! I've decided to just stick with the built-in Backup and Restore utility in Windows 7. I've created the boot disc and made my first full backup. Going to test the boot disc to see if I can see my USB Drive which is where I backed up my files.

Thanks
Just about anything is going to be able to see the USB drive. The concern is seeing the system hard drive from the boot disc. As example, I was happily using Paragon Drive Backup making backups to my USB drive. Then I needed to do a restore. The restore program on the boot CD didn't recognize my HD controller since it's Raid. I had to restore at 1/10th speed.. meaning letting it run overnight for 9 hours.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Mar 2010   #18
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Did you have a close look at your Win7 image - there is no simple way you can mount it and pull off individual files. That is a major shortfall (besides all the other warstories we see regarding Win7 imaging). I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole (although I have tried it out).
A good imaging program should allow you to mount the images and see and do things with it. That is why I use free Macrium after I had used Norton Ghost for a long time and Paragon for a while. Macrium is the easiest, fastest and most transparent of them all - and it works every time.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Mar 2010   #19
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Did you have a close look at your Win7 image - there is no way you can mount it and pull off individual files. That is a major shortfall (besides all the other warstories we see regarding Win7 imaging). I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole (although I have tried it out).
A good imaging program should allow you to mount the images and see and do things with it. That is why I use free Macrium after I had used Norton Ghost for a long time and Paragon for a while. Macrium is the easiest, fastest and most transparent of them all - and it works every time.
Here's Brink's tutorial how to do it with Disk Management, and my tutorial how to do it with Virtual PC. Both methods work with Windows Backup and Restore system images.

Kari
My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Mar 2010   #20
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Thanks Kari. I did not see those before. Quite a few hoops to jump for a simple operation. But at least, it seems to be possible - somehow. I correct: " There is no simple way..."
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Backup Software - Use Built-In Windows 7 or Other?




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
best backup software for windows 7
Hi folks, I'm looking for recommendations on good, free, backup software for windows 7. I've been using the built-in backup software in windows and find it to be a bit lacking in functionality. Right now my windows backups get sent to a SAMBA share, but I cannot adjust how often it does...
Backup and Restore
Is the built in backup program of any use?
I have read in this forum that many people here use third party backup software like Macium Reflect, if so then is Windows 7 built in backup software any good? Can it produce a rescue media that can restore the hard disk if Windows won't start?
Backup and Restore
Backup software that splits large files for incremental backup
G'day everyone Does anyone know of a simple backup program that is capable of backing up large files incrementally by splitting the file and backing up only changed parts of the file? The files I'm talking about are files that get altered by appending stuff at the end of the file, e.g. log...
Software
Simple Windows backup software?
I'm looking for some simple backup software that: can mirror my files from one NTFS filesystem to another (an external drive) does an incremental backup (I don't need to recopy 1.5 TB of files every time I want to backup) can copy files which are in use (probably using the Shadow Copy...
Backup and Restore
Windows 7 Ultimate's built in backup system?
Question about Windows 7 Ultimate's built in backup system. If I create a full system backup of my "C" drive, then do a restore, will it just install the "C" drive partition only, or will it overwrite the entire HD, thus wipping the rest of the partitions? Not looking to have the other...
Backup and Restore
Backup and Restore with Windows Built-in
First I did not know where to post this and next let me describe my system: It is barebones called Windsys that I built a few months ago. 1.6GHz 2.00 Gb ram 32 bit system 300 Gb Sata Drive that is partitioned into three partitions There are NO ide connections in this computer, everything...
System Security


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:39.
Twitter Facebook Google+ Seven Forums iOS App Seven Forums Android App