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Windows 7: Favorite Backup Software

16 Apr 2010   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Comcast is now giving NIS away for free
But that is not unusual. ATT gives McAfee to new customers.


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16 Apr 2010   #12
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I use Paragon HDM Server 2010 and Macrium free mainly .

Some like Acronis - it has an attractive interface - I found it very inefficient compared to the others - that may not matter to you.

There are others Drive Snapshot - Disk Image Backup for Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/X64 is popular - they do a 30 day free trial. The website and marketing is appalling - don't let that put you off, it has many fans.

The free ones are really these two - they are both excellent - try them and you may find that is all you need:

Paragon Backup & Recovery 10 Free

Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download

GFI is popular - but it is for file and folder backup - it is not a drive image program.

If you just want file and folder backup the free Karen's Replicator is hard to beat.
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16 Apr 2010   #13
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
What problems did you have with NIS2010. I am about to replace my MSE with NIS2010 (I still have a NIS product key valid for 850 days). I would be interested in your assessment.
It has some great features, but it's a bit resource heavy and does slow the machine down compared to MSE. And MSE uses about 300 MB less memory when the machine is just idle.

My biggest problem with it occurred recently. I've been developing some code, and an installer for it, and every new exe file I made was quarantined by NIS's SONAR function. It's like if Norton hasn't seen the file before, it's dangerous, and it's very difficult to override that feature without shutting off SONAR entirely, which causes more issues.

The last straw was this past Tuesday night. I had trouble with a RAID card install, and after the reboot, Norton was demanding that I activate my software because the trial period had expired, but I still had 200+ days on my current activation. I reactivated, and every time I did a restart, I had to activate again. This also happened a few months ago, and I spent a great deal of time talking to a nice, but not so helpful support tech. In the end I had to re-install. Faced with doing it again, and looking at the Symantec support forums where people were complaining constantly about the same issue, with no solution offered, I took it out and installed MSE.

New code -> New exe + New installer = No problem now.
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16 Apr 2010   #14
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

I run the risk of an endless loop, but I strongly urge everyone to make a rescue CD if possible from the product you are going to rely on for backup. Boot the CD. Go into the restore program. Does it see your HD controller?

I was merrily using Paragon Drive Backup. Since it worked fine on one of my HP PCs, I just assumed(yeah that word) the free 64 bit version would work on my HP 64 bit PC. Well the backups went just like always. Then I tried to restore from the rescue CD. All I could get was the dreaded compatibility mode. It didn't know nuthin' about my Raid controller. A 45 minute restore took 9 hours. I had to let it run overnight.

After that I got Macrium Reflect trial and did a backup and restore. It worked fine so I bought it. The point is not this brand or that brand. They all will run into hardware they don't handle well. The point is that it handles your hardware well. Either actually do a restore or get as close as you can without committing to see what will really happen when you use the rescue CD.

Ok, that's the last time I'll harp on that topic. I'm sure that horse ain't gettin' back up in my lifetime!

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16 Apr 2010   #15
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Thanks Mellon Head, that was a useful overview. Most of your problems would not apply to me, so I guess I will dare to do it. I have a relatively muscular system, so resource usage is not a concern.
I had a similar problem with MSE as you had with the Sonar function. An innocent video editing program that I used for years was kidnapped by MSE. It took up to 5 minutes to load because the msmpeng.exe held it hostage. But after putting it on the "Excluded files and locations" list, MSE left it alone.
RAID I don't have. But I have an OCZ SSD. We'll see how it likes that one.
My problem with MSE is that it does not protect you well. I caught a trojan and a browser highjacker and MSE did not catch it. Fortunately I automatically make an image every morning when I boot the machine. So it was not a big deal to fix the problem. But it makes you wonder.
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16 Apr 2010   #16
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Thanks Mellon Head, that was a useful overview. Most of your problems would not apply to me, so I guess I will dare to do it. I have a relatively muscular system, so resource usage is not a concern.
No prob. I really liked the Norton series. I've used it for about 10 years now in one form or other. It's been a pretty good product, and NIS2010 isn't nearly the resource hog that 2009 was. I'd still use it except for the SONAR thing. It's too aggressive, IMO, and Symantec doesn't seem to have a fix for that. If they fix it, then I'll probably use it again.

I'd do it if I were you, too. A big long license like that. Why not?
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16 Apr 2010   #17
polarbear

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

I use Paragon and tried the full restore, boot recover and so on... It all worked with no problems to report... I noticed at time to time they offer it free... Worth checking out nightly for your chance... GL
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16 Apr 2010   #18
not so gray matter

W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
 
 

I refuse to touch anything Norton anymore. I've had way too many issues with it. The last stable Norton product I used was the Corporate Edition of the Anti-Virus back when XP was in it's heyday. Zone Alarm products are actually starting to join Norton in the landfill as welll. I never thought I'd say it about ZA but all of their products seem to lock up my system.

Back to backups... I created a Rescue CD the second I switched to Macrium. I wanted to make sure that I would be able to restore before I deleted my old Windows system images. I may try out GFI if Macrium gives me any issues, but I don't really see that happening any time soon (fingers crossed).
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16 Apr 2010   #19
polarbear

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter View Post
I refuse to touch anything Norton anymore. I've had way too many issues with it. The last stable Norton product I used was the Corporate Edition of the Anti-Virus back when XP was in it's heyday. Zone Alarm products are actually starting to join Norton in the landfill as welll. I never thought I'd say it about ZA but all of their products seem to lock up my system.

Back to backups... I created a Rescue CD the second I switched to Macrium. I wanted to make sure that I would be able to restore before I deleted my old Windows system images. I may try out GFI if Macrium gives me any issues, but I don't really see that happening any time soon (fingers crossed).
Was a die hard ZA fan for years... Started to have problems and moved on... I'm a type of person who doesn't look back after I'd made a choice... GL
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16 Apr 2010   #20
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter View Post
I refuse to touch anything Norton anymore. I've had way too many issues with it. The last stable Norton product I used was the Corporate Edition of the Anti-Virus back when XP was in it's heyday. Zone Alarm products are actually starting to join Norton in the landfill as welll. I never thought I'd say it about ZA but all of their products seem to lock up my system.

Back to backups... I created a Rescue CD the second I switched to Macrium. I wanted to make sure that I would be able to restore before I deleted my old Windows system images. I may try out GFI if Macrium gives me any issues, but I don't really see that happening any time soon (fingers crossed).
What I like about GFI is that it doesn't use a proprietary format for the backup. Just plain ol' zip files, and you can encrypt them if you want.

I like the idea that I can just unzip everything without necessarily having to load a rescue disk.
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