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Windows 7: Post your Internet Browser Benchmark

23 Sep 2010   #271
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

The PeaceKeeper benchmark isn't really an accurate description of javascript performance - they're using js timers to do the timing for starters, which given the accuracy of a js timer in milliseconds (anyone who's ever tried to use one and have it be anywhere near accurate knows the horrors I speak of) means you could have a browser score 9,000 when it's nowhere close to that score, or the converse - a browser that doesn't update date.now quickly will have a poor score. Also, the fact that the test turns some of the operations into no-ops as the test runs (but still counts the no-op times.... wtf???) means a browser that can handle a no-op that you will never see in real life the fastest, or that updates (specifically) Date.Now() will have a higher score than ones that do not. Neither of these are real-world areas of pain, but they play a very large part in the PeaceKeeper score. Top it off with running inside a Java VM (and the browser's ability to run Java code faster will have an impact on the ultimate score) means it's a crap benchmark, because it has nothing to do with the real world nor is it laid out with actual performance testing in mind - it just tests some "things" and the fastest browser at those "things" that are in no way real-world tests will get a huge score.

The test, frankly, is a disaster and not very accurate. Heck, sunspider is more accurate at least at timing the execution of certain js functions, and we already know that test is wildly inaccurate because some browser makers have been tweaking their js engine load-times so that these tests look faster too. It is what it is, and using a multitude of benchmarks are nice, but what is really a good idea is to clear your cache and visit the sites you normally visit and see which browser is fastest at doing what *you* do with a browser, not testing random js functions or HTML4 or 5, or some CSS or DOM functions, and determining which is faster at a "test". The best test is which one works the way you work, and runs the sites you use without getting in your way.

Really, that is the best benchmark.


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23 Sep 2010   #272
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 



......................Firefox..................................Opera.......

This is a very simple and yet practical test that I developed using my Bandwidth Meter Pro where each bar represents 1 second of time to measure how quickly different browsers could download 5 sets (pages) of 64-80 Mb pictures that I have posted at a site I regularly visit doing what I normally do with a browser.

~Maxx~
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23 Sep 2010   #273
saakeman

windows 7 ( ultimate) /xp (home)
 
 

lunascapes scriped broke halfway !
opera 10 is doing great !
firefox beta crashed !
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23 Sep 2010   #274
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saakeman View Post
opera 10 is doing great !
I've been using Opera for almost 2 years and its been a very exciting ride especially now since they have both v10.62 and v10.70 in development!

~Maxx~
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23 Sep 2010   #275
saakeman

windows 7 ( ultimate) /xp (home)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saakeman View Post
opera 10 is doing great !
I've been using Opera for almost 2 years and its been a very exciting ride especially now since they have both v10.62 and v10.70 in development!

~Maxx~
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opera is a very cool browser, best looking interface, just sorry they have such a competitor like Google chrome
have you tried opera on any Linux systems
it bowled me away!
just like safari on mac
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23 Sep 2010   #276
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

I've run Opera on Win Vista and Win 7 and on both its so fast that I have measured download speeds that are only 0.6 Mbps slower than the 37 Mbps bandwidth of my modem! And with over 5,000 skins Opera runs great and looks good doing it!

~Maxx~
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23 Sep 2010   #277
Seven Eleven

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saakeman View Post
lunascapes scriped broke halfway !
opera 10 is doing great !
firefox beta crashed !
Peacekeeper used benchmark!
It was super effective!
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23 Sep 2010   #278
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
The PeaceKeeper benchmark isn't really an accurate description of javascript performance - they're using js timers to do the timing for starters, which given the accuracy of a js timer in milliseconds (anyone who's ever tried to use one and have it be anywhere near accurate knows the horrors I speak of) means you could have a browser score 9,000 when it's nowhere close to that score, or the converse - a browser that doesn't update date.now quickly will have a poor score. Also, the fact that the test turns some of the operations into no-ops as the test runs (but still counts the no-op times.... wtf???) means a browser that can handle a no-op that you will never see in real life the fastest, or that updates (specifically) Date.Now() will have a higher score than ones that do not. Neither of these are real-world areas of pain, but they play a very large part in the PeaceKeeper score. Top it off with running inside a Java VM (and the browser's ability to run Java code faster will have an impact on the ultimate score) means it's a crap benchmark, because it has nothing to do with the real world nor is it laid out with actual performance testing in mind - it just tests some "things" and the fastest browser at those "things" that are in no way real-world tests will get a huge score.

The test, frankly, is a disaster and not very accurate. Heck, sunspider is more accurate at least at timing the execution of certain js functions, and we already know that test is wildly inaccurate because some browser makers have been tweaking their js engine load-times so that these tests look faster too. It is what it is, and using a multitude of benchmarks are nice, but what is really a good idea is to clear your cache and visit the sites you normally visit and see which browser is fastest at doing what *you* do with a browser, not testing random js functions or HTML4 or 5, or some CSS or DOM functions, and determining which is faster at a "test". The best test is which one works the way you work, and runs the sites you use without getting in your way.

Really, that is the best benchmark.
No argument just a curiosity.
If Peacemaker is JAVA based then why do I have some of the highest scores posted with Chrome and Opera when I have no JAVA installed on my PC.
No JAVA/Sun software of any kind.

Things that make you go Hmmm???
Mike
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23 Sep 2010   #279
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Everyone's browser choice is the best browser.

All benchmarks are tainted and not real world.

This is an intersting thread, it's meant to be just a bit of fun.
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23 Sep 2010   #280
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

[QUOTE=Hopalong X;974319]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
No argument just a curiosity.
If Peacemaker is JAVA based then why do I have some of the highest scores posted with Chrome and Opera when I have no JAVA installed on my PC.
No JAVA/Sun software of any kind.

Things that make you go Hmmm???
Mike
You can run it without java, but on (for example) internet explorer or Firefox, you'll get a java window and part of the page runs from a java-based applet. Supposedly this doesn't affect the score, but in brief testing, machines where I did *not* run the java applet score consistently higher than the same test on the same machine in the same browser where I did run the java applet.

Very odd indeed.
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