I HATE Windows Live Mail

Hi all

a while ago people complained about the fact that there was no built in email client in W7.

I suggested that you could make VISTA mail work without problems - this is true but so many people said this is a waste of time -- why not use Windows Live Mail.

( My main email client is Outlook 2007 which I'm actually quite happy with).

However in the interests of "Science" I thought I might just as well test Windows Live Mail.

Well

I HATE IT already

1) You have to sign in to Windows live when you want to use it -- that's ANOTHER application / user id / password combination to remember -- hasn't Microsoft ever herad of SSO (Single sign on) or at least automate the login script so when you open windows live mail it logs you straight in just like Outlook / Outlook express / Vista Windows Mail

2) I can't get rid of the reading preview pane.

I prefer my email to look like this (attach) where I can double click the message if I want to open it.

3) You have to log in to Windows Live to use it -- not sure I want to do that all the time. This means even to SEND via your own email server you still have to login to windows live -- 2 processes instead of one as the windows live will then xmit the email via your own ISP's emails server (or your own private server).

Not a fan of this -- so I'd either stick to Outlook or use the trick to make Vista mail work on W7 if you want to use a MS email client.

Cheers
jimbo

Captain Zero said:

Breathe. Step away from the keyboard...

Live is another failed MS gimmick. Use Outlook 2010 and be happy.

Hi there

It's Monday morning and I'm stuck on a really boring project at the moment with lots of time to play around so I'm just messing around.

Outlook 2007 is just fine for me as I've indicated.

Anyway almost Lunch time and then I'm FREE for the rest of the day.

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 said:

Hi all



1) You have to sign in to Windows live when you want to use it -- that's ANOTHER application / user id / password combination to remember -- hasn't Microsoft ever herad of SSO (Single sign on) or at least automate the login script so when you open windows live mail it logs you straight in just like Outlook / Outlook express / Vista Windows Mail


2) I can't get rid of the reading preview pane.


I prefer my email to look like this (attach) where I can double click the message if I want to open it.

3) You have to log in to Windows Live to use it -- not sure I want to do that all the time. This means even to SEND via your own email server you still have to login to windows live -- 2 processes instead of one as the windows live will then xmit the email via your own ISP's emails server (or your own private server).


Not a fan of this -- so I'd either stick to Outlook or use the trick to make Vista mail work on W7 if you want to use a MS email client.

Cheers
jimbo

1. No you don't. If you go along to the Connection tab in Options, you can deselect it.
2. Yes you can - through the "View - Layout"
3. As you said previously, in No1.

Where exactly do you have to sign in every time you open WM because I use it all the time and I have never had to sign into it ?

Hi guys
I'm referring to WLM (Windows Live Mail) not WM (Windows Mail). Also on 7127 doesn't have the VIEW option anywhere to change anything

I'll post the image later when I can log on to that machine.

could be a fault with build 7127 .

Cheers

jimbo

Here is what I am using.

I was referring to Windows Live Mail also.
My points are appliceable to any version of windows.

Hm... Im using same signin on windows live mail as for other live services including connect and everything. I even went that far that im forwarding all mails from other 3 mail accounts to live mail and im using only this from now on (like week or two ago) all this for a simple reason, i needed news client couple of weeks ago and they REMOVED it in outlook 2007 (dont think its there also in 2010). And i just hate to have programs that are doing same things on my computer and windows live mail does the job just fine (just crashes from time to time on win7 ). Other thing i have issue with is, i cant sync iphone (itunes) with windows live contcts but if this will start to bother me to much ill just replace my iphone with something that is runing windows mobile.

Other thing you have issue with you can remove reading pane in layout options if you like, just untick it :)

Main issue im having atm is no Live-addon for office 2010 (however in all honesty this was another thing that occesionaly crashed on win7 and office 2007).

Hi there

the VIEW option is missing in my inbox menu so I don't get the facility to change the views. I downloaded from the MS site so I assume the Windows Live installer is good.

I'm going to see what happens on re-installing the whole lot again on a new VM to see if there are any probs with the initial install --

I've kept the old screenshots and will post BOTH later if there are any changes

On installing Windows Live I only selected Messenger and Mail - I don't need Photo gallery etc etc. - Could that have made a difference.

cheers
jimbo