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Windows 7: Why has Firefox become so bad?

10 Nov 2010   #21
madtownidiot

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ravanx View Post
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I'm calling bull$** on this whole issue.
trying to run 20+ tabs simultaneously might use 1.2GB.
You might need to eat that.
Chrome can handle 20+ tabs without lagging and without consuming half as much memory as firefox.
Firefox handles 20+ tabs with lagging and consuming 1.2GB of RAM.
Hmm...I guess you're partially right. Here's firefox with 20+ tabs open peaked at 170MB. Doesn't lag on my laptop at all no matter what I do with it, and I'm pretty sure my laptop's slower than whatever computer you're using.
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10 Nov 2010   #22
Ravanx

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ravanx View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
I'm calling bull$** on this whole issue.
trying to run 20+ tabs simultaneously might use 1.2GB.
You might need to eat that.
Chrome can handle 20+ tabs without lagging and without consuming half as much memory as firefox.
Firefox handles 20+ tabs with lagging and consuming 1.2GB of RAM.
Hmm...I guess you're partially right. Here's firefox with 20+ tabs open peaked at 170MB. Doesn't lag on my laptop at all no matter what I do with it, and I'm pretty sure my laptop's slower than whatever computer you're using.
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Have you kept your laptop on for two weeks (or at least a few days) consecutively while keeping the 20 tabs there without exiting firefox or rebooting your laptop? Would the result be the same?
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10 Nov 2010   #23
madtownidiot

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ravanx View Post
Have you kept your laptop on for two weeks (or at least a few days) consecutively while keeping the 20 tabs there without exiting firefox or rebooting your laptop? Would the result be the same?
you just proved my point.

Your problem with firefox has little or nothing to do with firefox itself, but the way you use your computer. Chrome rates higher on the benchmarks because it has almost no security built into it, which makes it lighter on a system, but fills it full of holes. If you leave almost any application running, then do something else and go back it it, you'll find it runs a little slower than before if your system doesn't have enough memory to avoid reverting to the pagefile for multiple running apps. I would bet the pagefile is in hundreds of fragments because you don't shut your computer down and do basic maintenance. When's the last time you cleared the browsing history, cleaned up and defragged your HDD? I would bet if you ran ccleaner it would remove at least a GB from your system.
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10 Nov 2010   #24
JMH

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ravanx View Post
Have you kept your laptop on for two weeks (or at least a few days) consecutively while keeping the 20 tabs there without exiting firefox or rebooting your laptop? Would the result be the same?
you just proved my point.

Your problem with firefox has little or nothing to do with firefox itself, but the way you use your computer. Chrome rates higher on the benchmarks because it has almost no security built into it, which makes it lighter on a system, but fills it full of holes. If you leave almost any application running, then do something else and go back it it, you'll find it runs a little slower than before if your system doesn't have enough memory to avoid reverting to the pagefile for multiple running apps. I would bet the pagefile is in hundreds of fragments because you don't shut your computer down and do basic maintenance. When's the last time you cleared the browsing history, cleaned up and defragged your HDD?.
Agreed.
I suggest the perceived problem lies with the user not Firefox.
No complaints re FF here.
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10 Nov 2010   #25
noobvious

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jmh View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ravanx View Post
have you kept your laptop on for two weeks (or at least a few days) consecutively while keeping the 20 tabs there without exiting firefox or rebooting your laptop? Would the result be the same?
you just proved my point.

your problem with firefox has little or nothing to do with firefox itself, but the way you use your computer. chrome rates higher on the benchmarks because it has almost no security built into it, which makes it lighter on a system, but fills it full of holes. If you leave almost any application running, then do something else and go back it it, you'll find it runs a little slower than before if your system doesn't have enough memory to avoid reverting to the pagefile for multiple running apps. I would bet the pagefile is in hundreds of fragments because you don't shut your computer down and do basic maintenance. when's the last time you cleared the browsing history, cleaned up and defragged your hdd?.
agreed.
I suggest the perceived problem lies with the user not firefox.
No complaints re ff here.
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10 Nov 2010   #26
blackzero

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Here: Firefox 4.0 beta 7 released

Relevant at topic at hand. Does anyone have the answer?
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11 Nov 2010   #27
Ravanx

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JMH View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ravanx View Post
Have you kept your laptop on for two weeks (or at least a few days) consecutively while keeping the 20 tabs there without exiting firefox or rebooting your laptop? Would the result be the same?
you just proved my point.

Your problem with firefox has little or nothing to do with firefox itself, but the way you use your computer. Chrome rates higher on the benchmarks because it has almost no security built into it, which makes it lighter on a system, but fills it full of holes. If you leave almost any application running, then do something else and go back it it, you'll find it runs a little slower than before if your system doesn't have enough memory to avoid reverting to the pagefile for multiple running apps. I would bet the pagefile is in hundreds of fragments because you don't shut your computer down and do basic maintenance. When's the last time you cleared the browsing history, cleaned up and defragged your HDD?.
Agreed.
I suggest the perceived problem lies with the user not Firefox.
No complaints re FF here.
Proved what point?

Let's see. How am I supposed to defrag my hard disk when it is 0% fragmented?
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11 Nov 2010   #28
madtownidiot

 

As I said before, bull$h** .. Post a screenshot of FF and task manager that shows FF using more than a GB of RAM. If you simply hate firefox and are looking for sympathy, this was the wrong place to go looking for it. If you actually have the problems you're describing, clearing browsing history, running ccleaner, and defragmenting your HDD will solve it, unless you have a bunch of toolbars and addons or your system is full of spyware.
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11 Nov 2010   #29
yowanvista

Windows 10 Pro x64, Arch Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ravanx View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JMH View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
you just proved my point.

Your problem with firefox has little or nothing to do with firefox itself, but the way you use your computer. Chrome rates higher on the benchmarks because it has almost no security built into it, which makes it lighter on a system, but fills it full of holes. If you leave almost any application running, then do something else and go back it it, you'll find it runs a little slower than before if your system doesn't have enough memory to avoid reverting to the pagefile for multiple running apps. I would bet the pagefile is in hundreds of fragments because you don't shut your computer down and do basic maintenance. When's the last time you cleared the browsing history, cleaned up and defragged your HDD?.
Agreed.
I suggest the perceived problem lies with the user not Firefox.
No complaints re FF here.
Proved what point?

Let's see. How am I supposed to defrag my hard disk when it is 0% fragmented?
Addons, Toolbars, AVs can slow FF
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11 Nov 2010   #30
madtownidiot

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by yowanvista View Post

Addons, Toolbars, AVs can slow FF
Worst thing you can do to a browser if you want it to be fast is add extensions, especially if it looks like this
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