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Windows 7: 64-bit Browsers

07 Feb 2011   #11
Manigue

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bits SP1
 
 

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Bad idea to use x64 browsers. There is not one anti virus that supports x64 browsers so you are setting yourself up to get a virus. I work in IT and I tell the personel not to use x64 browsers but they don't listen.
Can someone please confirm the above statement?

I've been using Minefield x64 for a long time with AVG AV protection (or so I thought). Searched the net trying to obtain a correct answer but did not find.

Some AV applications are advertised as 64 bit programs. But; they don't support 64 bit browsers?


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08 Feb 2011   #12
Manigue

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bits SP1
 
 

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Manigue, I work in IT and I know how some people think if it runs it must do everything it did on x32 but it does not. What I can tell you is only about 25% of software full support x64 bit os. However the amount of memory that the program can uses does go up. All you need to do is read the fine print of the software to find out what it realy does.
Thanks for such valuable info "Today". I use Minefield for most day to day non-essential surfing. For banking and special sites, I still use Firefox 3.6.13 (32 bits). Since 3.6.13 is fast enough for my needs, I can stop using Minefield until Mozilla puts out an official 64 bit version. Again, thanks for the info.
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08 Feb 2011   #13
andyparks

windows 7 home prem 64 bit
 
 

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Bad idea to use x64 browsers. There is not one anti virus that supports x64 browsers so you are setting yourself up to get a virus. I work in IT and I tell the personel not to use x64 browsers but they don't listen. And what gains would you get? A x32 bit application can only use 1.25GB of ram, so what could you be running on a browsers that need more then 1.25GB of ram?
I've got one kaspersky
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08 Feb 2011   #14
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

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Microsoft in a strange way do not realy support Windows 7 64 bit. I know its strange but if you read the terms and agreements of installing the OS for tech support for retail editions they only offer x32 bit support. That is why you get both disks in the retail edition. For x64 bit your on your own.

Trojan attacks mostly and some fraudulent websites such as faking a financial institutions website such as a bank. I looked into these problems at work where so of the users have windows 7 (About 80% now) where they all like to use the newest and greatest thing. Where firewalls that windows run or any anti virus firewall stop these intrusions before they are embedded on your computer none support 64 bit browsers. It does not matter what program that you use it appears. One user’s computer got a virus off a website that we use a lot at work no one else got this virus but this user. Well after removing this virus several times in one day we went through each website until the virus reappeared. I then went to my computer and opened two different browsers that where 64 bit and got the virus on my computer after that we disabled all 64 bit web browsers. This is just one case and I have seen this at least 5 times at my job. I had the same thing happen to me at home and now I stay away from them.
If you read the fine print on almost all of the major firewall companies they do not support 64 bit browsers at all. They barely support 64 bit. Even Microsoft support of 64 bit is sometimes nonexistent. I know that for the most part 64 bit browsers are new but with the problems I have seen I think I can say that they have major security flaws.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/03/protected_mode_bypass/

Thats one example that could be why I saw what I saw.At work we use norton internet security on all of our systems. Also I am unaware of any support for any 64 bit browsers from any anti virus programs. If there is please tell me.

I wish I could give your more links.

The people I work with alway want to use the newest and greatest thing as I said before. We alow are users to use what web browser that they chose. Howere after this had happened we made it A rule for are users not to use any x64 bit browsers until we said that they were ok. Which could be a long time. From a IT end of things it sucks.
Today, or should I say "Here to help" , is correct insofar as Norton Internet Security is concerned. See IE8 x64 Browser Protection using NIS2011 - Norton Community

Regards,
Golden
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08 Feb 2011   #15
Loftil

7 x64 7264
 
 

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As of now, only IE and an older build of Firefox are available in x64 for Windows.

Firefox Nightly Builds

A Guy
Hi and thank you, I just have a question, I'm presently using stable version of Firefox X64 code name Namoroka, quite happy with this version, when I upload for a new version many of my extensions won't work is there a way to correct that trouble. Thank you for your next answer.

See you...
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08 Feb 2011   #16
JOSHSKORN

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Hi, I'm the OP. Thanks for moving the thread in the correct forum. I'm amazed how much this thread has been added to, and also I'm shocked at how x64 browsers are not protected. Kind of makes the idea of a 64-bit OS useless if we can't safely use 64-bit applications. I hope software developers wake up and start focusing more attention to 64-bit platforms, as I'm noticing more and more Desktops and Laptops are being sold in 64-bit varieties. Currently, I'm continuing to search for more and more 64-bit applications.
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08 Feb 2011   #17
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I've got no problem with protection on my 64 bit FF. I'm not really sure why others are implying there is no protection. It all goes back to the OS. If your OS is protected, your browser is protected.
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08 Feb 2011   #18
stve

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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Bad idea to use x64 browsers. There is not one anti virus that supports x64 browsers so you are setting yourself up to get a virus. I work in IT and I tell the personel not to use x64 browsers but they don't listen. And what gains would you get? A x32 bit application can only use 1.25GB of ram, so what could you be running on a browsers that need more then 1.25GB of ram?
What do you do in the IT department make the coffee?
I think you are confusing 64 bit Operating systems with 64 bit browsers
I have been using The free 64 bit Comodo Internet Security Suite happily for a couple of years & yes it does have Anti virus , you can download the Anti virus component separately.

What do you gain using 64 bit browsers how about speed.

Firefox 32 bit (x86) vs. Firefox 64 bit (x64)
Internet Explorer 9 32 bit (x86) vs. IE9 64 bit (x64)
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08 Feb 2011   #19
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Just revisited this post. I'd like some confirmation that x64 browsers aren't protected. Seeing as the poster that posted that was originally "Here to Help" (banned), then "Today" (banned tomorrow). I don't believe a word he posted. In a quick Google, I found nothing to confirm his statements (nor deny either). A Guy
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09 Feb 2011   #20
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

A Guy - see my post number #14. The poster in the Norton forum is me.

I have tested this with NIS2010 and 2011, and can confirm that browser protection does NOT work if using IE8 x64.
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