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Windows 7: Paranoid about FF4?

27 Mar 2011   #1
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 
Paranoid about FF4?

Hello again, sorry for the bother. So, recently, I have updated my FF3.6 to FF4 and really likes it a lot but I'm not sure what's wrong with all my web-surfing.

1.) When I go to certain page, it just hangs there and whenever I click onto 'Refresh', it will automatically be okay in a second.
2.) I also find out that some page like Hotmail and forums' layout to be completely different like it isn't been loaded properly but this couldn't be resolve with 'Refreshing'. And this happens not so often so I couldn't be too bothered with it.
3.) Nowadays, I would load some pages longer than before and often get a 'Page couldn't be loaded' sign.

I have tried...
Clearing the cookies.
Clearing the 'Offline storage'?
Reinstall and use no plugins.

I mean, is it me being all so paranoid or is it that my settings is wrong? I heard they can use hardware to accelerate pages, yeah? Is it my hardware, etc?

Anyone please give me valueable opinion, thanks!!!


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27 Mar 2011   #2
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

even being a fan of ff myself I have noticed ff4 displaying a couple of pages incorrectly at times.
They are in a relatively basic format too so I don't know what's causing it.
I've actually reverted to using palemoon for the moment as ff4 does appear to still have a few glitches.
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27 Mar 2011   #3
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
even being a fan of ff myself I have noticed ff4 displaying a couple of pages incorrectly at times.
They are in a relatively basic format too so I don't know what's causing it.
I've actually reverted to using palemoon for the moment as ff4 does appear to still have a few glitches.
Thanks for the tips-up!

Also, could my newly installed ESET make a difference?
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27 Mar 2011   #4
Not Myself

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

If you are using a Firefox profile from an earlier release, there are many things that can cause problems with FF 4.0.

1. Click on Help/Restart with Add-ons disabled, go into Safe Mode (accept the default settings when the Safe Mode menu appears,) and see if problems go away. If so, they are likely caused by Firefox extensions that have not been updated for 4.0, but which are active anyway. If so, return to normal use, disable half of your extensions, test; if problems gone, re-enable a few extensions, test, and so on.

2. If problems persist, it is likely that you need to create a new profile:

Profile Manager - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

Don't install any extensions or themes: Test first, and then, if all seems okay, start installing extensions/themes, keep testing until all seems well.

I've noticed some different problems with FF 4.0 profiles compared to earlier FF releases. For example, I had one incompatible extension which I forced to work with 4.0, which it did, but that created an irretrievable profile error. In the past, there were ways to fix this (which I won't bother to go into here,) but which failed, at least for me, with 4.0.

I've also seen that a few .sqlite database files that worked in previous 4.0 profiles would not work with new profiles; this, too, is not something I recall seeing with earlier profiles.
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28 Mar 2011   #5
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
even being a fan of ff myself I have noticed ff4 displaying a couple of pages incorrectly at times.
They are in a relatively basic format too so I don't know what's causing it.
I've actually reverted to using palemoon for the moment as ff4 does appear to still have a few glitches.
Thanks for the tips-up!

Also, could my newly installed ESET make a difference?
yes, I've actually seen ESET causing issues on some windows 7 machines. Like I said you aren't the only one to have experienced this behavior with ff4 though, and I personally have no third party connection, or firewall/AV software installed. So I wouldn't be ready to blame ESET right off the bat in this specific circumstance.
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28 Mar 2011   #6
Manigue

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bits SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Not Myself View Post
If you are using a Firefox profile from an earlier release, there are many things that can cause problems with FF 4.0.

2. If problems persist, it is likely that you need to create a new profile:

Profile Manager - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

Don't install any extensions or themes: Test first, and then, if all seems okay, start installing extensions/themes, keep testing until all seems well.
Questions:

1) If I create a new profile, will it be a plain vanilla? In other words, nothing from any old/existing profile will be added on this new profile?

2) If my "Default Profile" is corrupted or have changed, can I delete ALL my profiles to force FF to start fresh with a new one or do I have to do an un-install and re-install? (I am aware that I have to backup my bookmarks. That's no problem.)

I have been copying/renaming from my "Default Profile" for several updates, including Minefield nightly updates. This may be why I see the same problems mentioned here by forum members in this thread.

I have started without add-ons but obtained the same results.
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28 Mar 2011   #7
Not Myself

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Manigue View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Not Myself View Post
If you are using a Firefox profile from an earlier release, there are many things that can cause problems with FF 4.0.

2. If problems persist, it is likely that you need to create a new profile:

Profile Manager - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

Don't install any extensions or themes: Test first, and then, if all seems okay, start installing extensions/themes, keep testing until all seems well.
Questions:

1) If I create a new profile, will it be a plain vanilla? In other words, nothing from any old/existing profile will be added on this new profile?

2) If my "Default Profile" is corrupted or have changed, can I delete ALL my profiles to force FF to start fresh with a new one or do I have to do an un-install and re-install? (I am aware that I have to backup my bookmarks. That's no problem.)

I have been copying/renaming from my "Default Profile" for several updates, including Minefield nightly updates. This may be why I see the same problems mentioned here by forum members in this thread.

I have started without add-ons but obtained the same results.
!. Yes, the new profile will be a clean one, and you should start your testing that way. If things appear to be okay, you can then copy certain files from your old profile to the new one; the link I provided in my first reply will show you which files in a profile do what and can, therefore, be copied. However, if you do copy, I suggest that you copy only one at a time (or, for such things as passwords, the pair of files needed,) and test after doing the copying; again, this is to ascertain that the copied file/s did not create any problem(s.)

2. Don't touch the existing profile: The Profile Manager allows you to choose which profile to use.


It is not at all unlikely that your copying from existing profiles has caused problems; that, for example, is why I suggest that when copying files into a new profile, you test each time. If a problem does occur, you can start yet another profile, which won't take long, continue copying but--of course--skipping any files that caused problems.

Once that process is complete, then you can start installing extensions; don't try copying the extensions folder from an existing profile, as that can quickly destroy a working profile, Instead, download//install each extension one at a time, test, repeat the process until you finally have a good, working profile.

Once you are certain that you no longer need any files from any older profiles, then you can use the Profile Manager to delete both the profiles and their files.
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28 Mar 2011   #8
Manigue

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bits SP1
 
 

[/QUOTE]

!. Yes, the new profile will be a clean one, and you should start your testing that way. If things appear to be okay, you can then copy certain files from your old profile to the new one; the link I provided in my first reply will show you which files in a profile do what and can, therefore, be copied. However, if you do copy, I suggest that you copy only one at a time (or, for such things as passwords, the pair of files needed,) and test after doing the copying; again, this is to ascertain that the copied file/s did not create any problem(s.)

2. Don't touch the existing profile: The Profile Manager allows you to choose which profile to use.

It is not at all unlikely that your copying from existing profiles has caused problems; that, for example, is why I suggest that when copying files into a new profile, you test each time. If a problem does occur, you can start yet another profile, which won't take long, continue copying but--of course--skipping any files that caused problems.

Once that process is complete, then you can start installing extensions; don't try copying the extensions folder from an existing profile, as that can quickly destroy a working profile, Instead, download//install each extension one at a time, test, repeat the process until you finally have a good, working profile.

Once you are certain that you no longer need any files from any older profiles, then you can use the Profile Manager to delete both the profiles and their files.[/QUOTE]

Thank you.
Followed your procedures and solved my issues.
Learned a bit more about FF browsers.

Again; Thanks.
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29 Mar 2011   #9
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Not Myself View Post
If you are using a Firefox profile from an earlier release, there are many things that can cause problems with FF 4.0.

1. Click on Help/Restart with Add-ons disabled, go into Safe Mode (accept the default settings when the Safe Mode menu appears,) and see if problems go away. If so, they are likely caused by Firefox extensions that have not been updated for 4.0, but which are active anyway. If so, return to normal use, disable half of your extensions, test; if problems gone, re-enable a few extensions, test, and so on.

2. If problems persist, it is likely that you need to create a new profile:

Profile Manager - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

Don't install any extensions or themes: Test first, and then, if all seems okay, start installing extensions/themes, keep testing until all seems well.

I've noticed some different problems with FF 4.0 profiles compared to earlier FF releases. For example, I had one incompatible extension which I forced to work with 4.0, which it did, but that created an irretrievable profile error. In the past, there were ways to fix this (which I won't bother to go into here,) but which failed, at least for me, with 4.0.

I've also seen that a few .sqlite database files that worked in previous 4.0 profiles would not work with new profiles; this, too, is not something I recall seeing with earlier profiles.
Thank you, sir for all the help. I have tried running without any add-ons. I have been testing with this for a bit now and if things still happens, I will have to re-make a new profile.

Will post feedback soon and thanks again!
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