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Windows 7: Firefox 5.0 Beta

06 May 2011   #11
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff View Post
FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.
So to clarify - since the extensions and themes you use have not been updated, or updated poorly, this makes Firefox 4 itself garbage?

Interesting interpretation of where to apply blame.


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06 May 2011   #12
chrysalis

windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

g1lly any sign of process isolation or sandbox in 6.0 builds? I would like to think they at least working on those considering IE has had both for a while now and chrome has them as well.
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06 May 2011   #13
chrysalis

windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff View Post
FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.
So to clarify - since the extensions and themes you use have not been updated, or updated poorly, this makes Firefox 4 itself garbage?

Interesting interpretation of where to apply blame.
to be fair in my view the extensions is what makes FF what it is, without tabmix plus and ...... I wouldnt be giving FF a 2nd thought. All the extensions I use on FF3 seem fine on 4 tho. So I didnt have the same problem with compatibility, the one that gave me weird behaviour with mouse and fish test was a FF4 specific extension.
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07 May 2011   #14
G1LLY

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrysalis View Post
g1lly any sign of process isolation or sandbox in 6.0 builds? I would like to think they at least working on those considering IE has had both for a while now and chrome has them as well.
They have IPC / Sandboxing on their roadmap but I don't think it's been implemented yet in the these early 6.0 builds.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Roa...Customizations
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07 May 2011   #15
EchoX860

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff View Post
FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.
Wait, you're saying FF4 is garbage because your addons weren't compatible yet? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Blame your extension creators.
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07 May 2011   #16
chrysalis

windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by G1LLY View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrysalis View Post
g1lly any sign of process isolation or sandbox in 6.0 builds? I would like to think they at least working on those considering IE has had both for a while now and chrome has them as well.
They have IPC / Sandboxing on their roadmap but I don't think it's been implemented yet in the these early 6.0 builds.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Roa...Customizations
thanks for the info.

I have been reading what in my view is scary stuff about the future of firefox. Mozilla must be really shaken by chrome because they changing their dev policy to copy chrome as well. Things I have read included every 6 weeks will be a major release update and will scrap security updates instead merging them with feature updates. So if I want security updates but not feature updates I will be screwed.
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07 May 2011   #17
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by G1LLY View Post
This isn't the official Firefox 5 Beta 1. It's been pulled direct from the Mozilla FTP servers and is dated 28 April, this is most likely a candidate build, just giving people a heads up, but having said that it's pretty stable, been running this build for a couple of days, no problems

Mozilla haven't officially announced it yet - Firefox Future Releases
Actually Nightly builds are 6.01a2 and more stable. They also address several pressing issues.

Now regarding downgrading to 3.6.17, very soon Moz is going to start pushing 4.0 downstream so it is a waste of time (in my opinion) since shortly you will be urged to update back to 4.0

There are ways to make all extensions work, it is 25% faster, and more stable.


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07 May 2011   #18
dogbert2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I just installed FF 5 Beta 1, looks good so far, but it would be nice if extensions and plugins would be functional
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07 May 2011   #19
chrysalis

windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by G1LLY View Post
This isn't the official Firefox 5 Beta 1. It's been pulled direct from the Mozilla FTP servers and is dated 28 April, this is most likely a candidate build, just giving people a heads up, but having said that it's pretty stable, been running this build for a couple of days, no problems

Mozilla haven't officially announced it yet - Firefox Future Releases
Actually Nightly builds are 6.01a2 and more stable. They also address several pressing issues.

Now regarding downgrading to 3.6.17, very soon Moz is going to start pushing 4.0 downstream so it is a waste of time (in my opinion) since shortly you will be urged to update back to 4.0

There are ways to make all extensions work, it is 25% faster, and more stable.
yep and its already happened, I declined an auto update to 4.0.1 from 3.6, on my testing 4.0.1 has very bad memory leaks using over 2 gig ram with just 5 tabs open, my main install uses over 200 tabs which I dread to think the ram usage on 4.0.1.
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07 May 2011   #20
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff View Post
FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.
So to clarify - since the extensions and themes you use have not been updated, or updated poorly, this makes Firefox 4 itself garbage?

Interesting interpretation of where to apply blame.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by EchoX860 View Post
Wait, you're saying FF4 is garbage because your addons weren't compatible yet? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Blame your extension creators.
Sort of what I was thinking. That's like blaming Microsoft for your 10 year old printer (or any other piece of hardware) not working with Windows 7 because the manufacturer didn't put out any drivers for it.

As Echo said don't blame Mozilla/Firefox, get on the extension writers case. That or look for extensions that are similar and that are getting updated. Can't blame Mozilla for your favorite extension not getting updated for who knows how long.

You can also do this,

Extensions.checkCompatibility - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

and then test those that are supposed to be incompatible. Probably find that most if not all will work just fine. Or you can go through all of your "incompatible" extensions and change the maxVersion number in all the install.rdf files,

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Ext...ate_RDF_Format

which is all that most of the extension writers do anyway if there are no problems with their extensions in a new version of Firefox.
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