Wierd browsing boot up problem after new build

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  1. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #11

    No guarantees that you will find anything - but I would download, unzip and copy the EXE for Process Monitor directly into either startup folder. Just use the default filters. Reboot and let it gather data until Firefox starts. You can mouse over the icons on the toolbar menu to see what each does. Maybe you will see what is causing the delay.
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  2. Posts : 23
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #12

    Thanks for the help guys.

    Unfortunately none of the suggestions fixed the problem however, more than by good luck than good management, I managed to resolve the problem.

    I deleted my Firefox Profile and built a new one from scratch. The interesting thing is that all the add ons etc are the same as the original, but something in it must have been corrupted.
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  3. Posts : 53,365
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #13

    Ahhh, good find. That was an odd one. Glad you got it sorted

    A Guy
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  4. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #14

    Glad that you got it working...
    ...sad that we don't know why it barfed.

    But such is life
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  5. Posts : 23
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Unfortunately its not solved!

    It was a coincidence that the new FF profile made it look like that was the issue, but the same old problem is back. However, I now a further lead that may help resolve the issue.

    Just to recap, if I have Firefox starting automatically, it loads partially and then goes into space for about three minutes and then opens. I have also noticed that my Clipboard Recorder does not open. And another symptom has come to light. If, whilst I am waiting for FF to open, I click on, or open a command prompt, my keyboard does not type and the command prompt freezes.

    However, if I use the task manger to kill the partially opening FF first, I don't have the keyboard issue. Also, once its been killed, and I click on the FF shortcut, it opens properly.

    Next major consideration.... If FF is not started by auto method, everything works normally and I can start FF as soon as the system has loaded.

    Now, here is the new bit of info that may help narrow the cause down.

    In all of these trial and error attempts, when the computer booted, it did not require a user authentication or password. However, I have discovered something new by accident. After going into NETPLWIZ and setting a log on password requirement, it boots up and once the password is entered, it loads properly and opens FF the way it is meant to work. Now I am totally and completely .

    No requirement for a password and its back to its old, naughty self.

    (The reason I thought it was solved was that the new FF profile was done at the same time as the temporary setting of a start up password.)
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  6. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #16

    Are you using a shortcut in the start up folder to automatically launch Firefox with each boot.

    Did Process Monitor show what Firefox was doing during the delay?
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  7. Posts : 23
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #17

    Yes, I am using a short cut. Its a copy of the same shortcut that I use in the Taskbar.

    I did install the Process Monitor, but there are hundreds of items in the list and I have no idea what I am should be looking for, and it adds stuff at a blindly fast rate.
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  8. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #18

    Stop the data collection after the Firefox window appears.

    Find any entry for Firefox.exe
    Right click on that entry
    Select Include > Process Name
    Scroll to the bottom - then work your way up.
    I'm hoping that some failed operation will be repeated thousands of times.

    I wonder if a pinned shortcut is a bit different than the one on the Start Menu or ones created by Explorer's context menu option to send to desktop.
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  9. Posts : 23
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Thanks. I deleted the original shortcut, opened Code Stuff Starter and copied the original Firefox.exe into it's Startups page.

    There are a number of items with multiple entries and I am not sure what they mean and then how to fix them, so I have attached the file and would appreciate it if you could please have a look at it for me.
    Wierd browsing boot up problem after new build Attached Files
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  10. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #20

    Please read thru to the end of this post before taking any action.

    Thanks for the logfile - it looks like Process Monitor started gathering data after Firefox started loading. It shows most of the normal things that should happen when starting Firefox, but not the items causing the delay. There are only a few seconds worth of info on Firefox, not the 3 minutes like you mention in the OP. It is possible that the delay is caused by an app other than Firefox, so you will want to save all events to a log file. Such a log file may be too big to upload to the forum, but we can deal with that later.

    If you want, you can create a batch file* that...
    ...starts Process Monitor and then starts Firefox.
    Put that batch file in your OS startup** folder:

    See the notes below for info on Procmon64.exe***
    Code:
    start C:\Procmon64.exe
    ping 1.1.1.1
    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
    (The info below is verbose. This is not meant to insult the reader. Others reading this might require this level of detail.)

    *If need be, show most OS file extensions using this tutorial:
    File Extensions - Hide or Show
    Create/open a new text file on your desktop.
    Copy/paste the info from above into that text file.
    Save/close that text file.
    Right-click on that new text file.
    and select Rename from the context menu.
    Rename the file to test.bat
    Click on an empty spot on your desktop to complete the renaming process.
    Right-click on the file named test.bat
    Select Copy from the context menu.

    **Click on Start > All Programs
    Scroll (if need be) to locate the folder named Startup
    Right-click on that Startup folder.
    Select Open from the context menu.
    Once the Windows (file) Explorer window opens,
    right-click in an empty spot in the right hand pane,
    and select Paste from the context menu.
    That should paste test.bat file into that folder.

    ***(I'll forego the verbose instructions for this part.)
    Procmon64.exe is created by the 32bit version of Process Monitor when it detects a 64bit OS.
    Manually start the Process Monitor app using Procmon.exe.
    Look in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp for Procmon64.exe.
    Copy Procmon64.exe to into the root of the C drive for this test.
    (Hopefully, readers know how to copy/paste a file by now.)



    When you said:
    "Yes, I am using a short cut. Its a copy of the same shortcut that I use in the Taskbar. "
    I figured that you had copied the file for that pinned task and placed into one of the startup folders. If all you did was to copy the info from the Target field while viewing the properties of the pinned task (then pasted that into the Starter app) then it would not matter if you used a pinned task to get the info or a desktop shortcut or a Start Menu shortcut or....

    I've not used Starter by CodeStuff so I'm not sure where it puts info that you entered on the Startups page. For the batch file test, you will want to remove or deselect the entry that you made for Firefox in the Starter app. I would also suggest that you simply copy the batch file to your OS startup folder.


    If you want, you can skip all of the testing above and try these verbose steps first:
    Remove or deselect the entry that you made for Firefox in the Starter app.
    Click on Start > All Programs
    Scroll (if need be) to locate the shortcut named Mozilla Firefox
    Right-click on that Mozilla Firefox shortcut.
    Select Copy from the context menu.
    Scroll (if need be) to locate the folder named Startup
    Right-click on that Startup folder.
    Select Open from the context menu.
    Once the Windows (file) Explorer window opens,
    right-click in an empty spot in the right hand pane,
    and select Paste from the context menu.
    That should paste the shortcut named Mozilla Firefox into that folder.
    Restart the computer and see if Firefox starts in a reasonable amount of time.
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