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Windows 7: Pale Moon Browser

16 Apr 2010   #21
TheSchaft

Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
 
 

I've been playing with it for a day or so and like it so far - good speed. I installed the "NoSquint" add-on (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2592) so I could make the pages a tad larger on my 23" monitor.


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16 Apr 2010   #22
Snowdog

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
firefox2010: "I tested this browser on peacekeeper and found that it's only faster than firefox about 10%"

"ONLY 10%" ?

is that not a good improvement ?
On peacekeeper 10% is meaningless. Actually I was benchmarking a 100%+ difference between firefox and Chrome and I could detect no speed difference in actual use.

If you really need faster you need Opera or Chrome Dev/Beta. But unless your systems is very slow, or you run on extremely intensive pages, I would just use what you like best.

I use FF 3.6.3 as my main browser. It isn't the fastest but it is highly configurable and has the best extensions and speed differences are undetectable in normal usage.
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17 Apr 2010   #23
firefox2010

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
firefox2010: "I tested this browser on peacekeeper and found that it's only faster than firefox about 10%"

"ONLY 10%" ?

is that not a good improvement ?
No, the actual figure is only about 7-8% compared to advertised figure 25%. It does browse a bit faster than ff 3.6.3 however I need to completely uninstalled the FF in order to use it, otherwise it doesn't work properly. The main concern with this browser is the security feature, perhaps someone with a better knowledge could share with us how secure is this browser compared to FF.
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17 Apr 2010   #24
firefox2010

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snowdog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
firefox2010: "I tested this browser on peacekeeper and found that it's only faster than firefox about 10%"

"ONLY 10%" ?

is that not a good improvement ?
On peacekeeper 10% is meaningless. Actually I was benchmarking a 100%+ difference between firefox and Chrome and I could detect no speed difference in actual use.

If you really need faster you need Opera or Chrome Dev/Beta. But unless your systems is very slow, or you run on extremely intensive pages, I would just use what you like best.

I use FF 3.6.3 as my main browser. It isn't the fastest but it is highly configurable and has the best extensions and speed differences are undetectable in normal usage.
Yes, I agree. I just wish one day FF could catch up with Opera and Chrome in speed.
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17 Apr 2010   #25
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

hi !

Snowdog: "On peacekeeper 10% is meaningless...."

is it ?

"...If you really need faster you need Opera or Chrome Dev/Beta."

i didnīt say that i NEED more speed, i said it feels faster & is ~7% faster on peacekeeper.
yes, Opera is faster but it doesnīt have the add-ons that FF has, which therefore makes it a little bit primitive.

if "TabMix-Plus" had worked with FF 3.7a i would have used it, so iīm waiting for an update to "TabMix-Plus"...
one other very important add-on for me is "NoScript" which is already working on 3.7a.

firefox2010:
"The main concern with this browser is the security feature, perhaps someone with a better knowledge could share with us how secure is this browser compared to FF."

well, this thread was created by Corrine...
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17 Apr 2010   #26
Corrine

Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
firefox2010:
"The main concern with this browser is the security feature, perhaps someone with a better knowledge could share with us how secure is this browser compared to FF."

well, this thread was created by Corrine...
Let's look at what I quoted from the technical info in the original post on the features disabled by design in Pale Moon:

Quote:
* ActiveX and ActiveX scripting. ActiveX is specific to Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and is not natively supported by (any) Firefox builds. There are some extensions that enable ActiveX components and scripts to run in Firefox on Windows, which will, therefore, not run in Pale Moon. This is a security consideration more than a speed consideration. [Bold added]
Definitely a plus for Pale Moon, unless the add-ons that use ActiveX are important to you. Add-block Plus and NoScript work seamlessly with Pale Moon.

Quote:
* Parental controls. Pale Moon aims to be a fast browser for general use, not a "secured family browser". The design impact of parental controls as introduced in Firefox 3.0 and later is significant, and has had serious implications for building the browser. As such, parental controls have been disabled.
This would reduce security if Firefox parental controls extensions are used on a family computer. See Parental controls - MozillaZine Knowledge Base
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* A few miscellaneous things like the crashreporter and automatic updater, since they require server-side components that are not in place at palemoon.org. You will have to check manually if you have the latest version and update accordingly.
My only security related concern here is that without the automatic updater, people who are not aware of updates would run out-of-date software.
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17 Apr 2010   #27
hybridfan

Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
 
 

I love testing out new browsers, will give this a whirl tonight. Thanks Corrine
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17 Apr 2010   #28
firefox2010

Windows 7
 
 

Thanks Corrine for your information about Pale Moon's security. A plus aside the speed improvement for this browser is that it actually fix the problem with Firefox's cache on youtube's video so that you don't need to re-downloading the video you just watched.
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17 Apr 2010   #29
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

about PMīs security, thatīs also my interpretation of what Corrine posted in the first post, PM is more secure then FF.
ActiveX can be VERY dangerous...

"... problem with Firefox's cache on youtube's video..."
what problem is that ?
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17 Apr 2010   #30
rev1775

7-Pro-64
 
 

Perhaps a dumb question but, I just installed this not 10 minutes ago and I am wondering just where and under what name is this installed? It doesn't add a folder to programs nor does it show up in my programs and features section? Am I missing the boat here as to uninstalling it at some point if I choose?
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