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Windows 7: BSOD on start up.

08 Aug 2010   #41
Lulubop

Windows 7
 
 

Hmmm, so I've tried using just 1 memory stick and I've yet to BSOD. It doesn't matter which stick it is, which is weird. Any possible reasoning for this? I'd obviously like to to use both and have a stable computer. Also lately the Mouse has been randomly not working, no matter what USB port it's plugged into. Plugging it out than in fixes it, but it's just odd.


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08 Aug 2010   #42
Jonathan_King

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Sounds like a compatibility issue. Are the sticks the same brand/model?
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08 Aug 2010   #43
Lulubop

Windows 7
 
 

Yea, they both are the same RAM.
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08 Aug 2010   #44
Lulubop

Windows 7
 
 

So I got a BSOD trying to uninstall and reinstall the drivers for the GPU. I managed to finish the process, but I'm not sure I did it correctly and I'm still having an the issue of the DWM disabling itself for a few minutes with no warning or reason and then enabling itself again. I don't think the BSOD is related to the others however.
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08 Aug 2010   #45
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lulubop View Post
Yea, they both are the same RAM.
Hate to tell you but 14 of 16 crashes were caused by memory management. You need to test each stick by itself, and each mobo slot as well. I assume you are using memtest but in case.

Download a copy of Memtest86 and burn the ISO to a CD using Iso Recorder or another ISO burning program. Boot from the CD, and leave it running for at least 5 or 6 passes.


Code:
080610-22230-01.dmp    8/6/2010 22:46:54    SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION     0x0000003b    00000000`c0000005    fffff960`0001da1a     fffff880`0734a3f0    00000000`00000000    win32k.sys     win32k.sys+1da1a                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080610-22230-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080210-22557-01.dmp    8/2/2010 14:27:00    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005003    fffff700`01080000     00000000`00001fe1    00001fe3`00003fc3    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080210-22557-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080310-18252-01.dmp    8/3/2010 14:40:20    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`6d40b001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080310-18252-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080410-17877-01.dmp    8/4/2010 14:07:36    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`6d223001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080410-17877-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080410-20217-01.dmp    8/4/2010 19:00:36    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005100    fffff6fc`80621258     00000000`00000707    00000000`00000001    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080410-20217-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080410-20763-01.dmp    8/4/2010 14:12:54    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041790    fffffa80`016bf360     00000000`0000ffff    00000000`00000000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080410-20763-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-18033-01.dmp    8/5/2010 17:59:58    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041201    fffff680`00091058     00000000`00000001    fffffa80`05c3d470    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-18033-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-18174-01.dmp    8/5/2010 16:58:10    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005100    fffff6fc`80628058     00000000`00000077    00000000`00000001    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-18174-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-18267-01.dmp    8/5/2010 20:57:52    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041790    fffffa80`016fc9e0     00000000`0000ffff    00000000`00000000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-18267-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-20108-01.dmp    8/5/2010 16:51:32    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041201    fffff680`00007758     00000000`00000001    fffffa80`041cf5c0    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-20108-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-20202-01.dmp    8/5/2010 21:36:16    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041790    fffffa80`0172c410     00000000`0000ffff    00000000`00000000    win32k.sys     win32k.sys+5ae8d                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-20202-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-20545-01.dmp    8/5/2010 16:46:46    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`ff213001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-20545-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-21184-01.dmp    8/5/2010 17:11:12    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005003    fffff700`01080000     00000000`00000839    0000083b`00001073    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-21184-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080610-17581-01.dmp    8/6/2010 23:04:02    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`ff42b001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080610-17581-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080610-19188-01.dmp    8/6/2010 22:42:02     CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION    0x000000f4    00000000`00000003     fffffa80`058a5b30    fffffa80`058a5e10    fffff800`02dcc540     ntoskrnl.exe    ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080610-19188-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080810-30092-01.dmp    8/8/2010 19:15:18        0x00000116     fffffa80`03f06010    fffff880`0481e694    00000000`00000000     00000000`00000002    dxgkrnl.sys    dxgkrnl.sys+5cef8                     x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080810-30092-01.dmp    4     15    7600
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08 Aug 2010   #46
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lulubop View Post
So I got a BSOD trying to uninstall and reinstall the drivers for the GPU. I managed to finish the process, but I'm not sure I did it correctly and I'm still having an the issue of the DWM disabling itself for a few minutes with no warning or reason and then enabling itself again. I don't think the BSOD is related to the others however.

Hate to tell you but 14 of 16 crashes were caused by memory management. You need to test each stick by itself, and each mobo slot as well. I assume you are using memtest but in case.

Download a copy of Memtest86 and burn the ISO to a CD using Iso Recorder or another ISO burning program. Boot from the CD, and leave it running for at least 5 or 6 passes.


Code:
080610-22230-01.dmp    8/6/2010 22:46:54    SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION     0x0000003b    00000000`c0000005    fffff960`0001da1a     fffff880`0734a3f0    00000000`00000000    win32k.sys     win32k.sys+1da1a                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080610-22230-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080210-22557-01.dmp    8/2/2010 14:27:00    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005003    fffff700`01080000     00000000`00001fe1    00001fe3`00003fc3    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080210-22557-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080310-18252-01.dmp    8/3/2010 14:40:20    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`6d40b001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080310-18252-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080410-17877-01.dmp    8/4/2010 14:07:36    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`6d223001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080410-17877-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080410-20217-01.dmp    8/4/2010 19:00:36    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005100    fffff6fc`80621258     00000000`00000707    00000000`00000001    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080410-20217-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080410-20763-01.dmp    8/4/2010 14:12:54    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041790    fffffa80`016bf360     00000000`0000ffff    00000000`00000000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080410-20763-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-18033-01.dmp    8/5/2010 17:59:58    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041201    fffff680`00091058     00000000`00000001    fffffa80`05c3d470    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-18033-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-18174-01.dmp    8/5/2010 16:58:10    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005100    fffff6fc`80628058     00000000`00000077    00000000`00000001    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-18174-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-18267-01.dmp    8/5/2010 20:57:52    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041790    fffffa80`016fc9e0     00000000`0000ffff    00000000`00000000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-18267-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-20108-01.dmp    8/5/2010 16:51:32    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041201    fffff680`00007758     00000000`00000001    fffffa80`041cf5c0    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-20108-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-20202-01.dmp    8/5/2010 21:36:16    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041790    fffffa80`0172c410     00000000`0000ffff    00000000`00000000    win32k.sys     win32k.sys+5ae8d                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-20202-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-20545-01.dmp    8/5/2010 16:46:46    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`ff213001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-20545-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080510-21184-01.dmp    8/5/2010 17:11:12    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00005003    fffff700`01080000     00000000`00000839    0000083b`00001073    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080510-21184-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080610-17581-01.dmp    8/6/2010 23:04:02    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT     0x0000001a    00000000`00041284    00000000`ff42b001     00000000`00000000    fffff700`01080000    ntoskrnl.exe     ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080610-17581-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080610-19188-01.dmp    8/6/2010 22:42:02     CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION    0x000000f4    00000000`00000003     fffffa80`058a5b30    fffffa80`058a5e10    fffff800`02dcc540     ntoskrnl.exe    ntoskrnl.exe+70600                    x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080610-19188-01.dmp    4     15    7600    
080810-30092-01.dmp    8/8/2010 19:15:18        0x00000116     fffffa80`03f06010    fffff880`0481e694    00000000`00000000     00000000`00000002    dxgkrnl.sys    dxgkrnl.sys+5cef8                     x64         C:\Users\K\Desktop\Windows7_BSOD_jcgriff2\080810-30092-01.dmp    4     15    7600
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08 Aug 2010   #47
Lulubop

Windows 7
 
 

Well yea, I'm assuming the Memory is in fact the issue. I've been using 1 Stick the last two days and have only BSOD once and I explained that in my previous post. I have tested both sticks multiple times, as well as tried different slots. The only thing that seems to not cause any BSOD is using one stick. I have no idea why that is.

Also I believe my GPU is also giving me problems, and I posted the Blue Screen I got during the installing and reinstalling of it's drivers. I'm not sure why I got BSOD during that either. I'm not sure I uninstalled it correctly, since I also have to uninstall the CCC it comes with
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11 Aug 2010   #48
Lulubop

Windows 7
 
 

Alright, so I thought it was a problem on the HD since I apparently had some corrupt files. I couldn't complete a sfc/scannow and the system maintenance kept saying I had disc volume errors. So I decided to reinstall windows, which I had been playing to do and today it's back to crashing. Though the probably with the HD seem to be fixed, sine I have no errors and sfc/scannow sees no problems.
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11 Aug 2010   #49
Jonathan_King

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Please update your Realtek network drivers:
Code:
Rt64win7.sys Thu Feb 26 04:04:13 2009
Look on your computer manufacturer's site, or go here: Realtek

...Summary of the Dumps:
Code:

Built by: 7600.16617.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100618-1621
Debug session time: Wed Aug 11 13:16:16.163 2010 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:06:23.709
BugCheck 1A, {41790, fffffa80016a74e0, ffff, 0}
Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+33906 )
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x1a_41790
PROCESS_NAME:  mscorsvw.exe
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13 Aug 2010   #50
DoDoENT

Arch Linux x64 / Windows 7 x64
 
 

Lulubop, looks like we may have the same problem and same motherboards. If so, then maybe my temporary solution will help you:

0) put back your memory sticks as they were on the beginning of this discussion
1) boot your computer, it should crash on boot
2) restart, enter the BIOS, go to the tab that has 'CPU configuration' section
3) open the 'CPU Configuration' section
4) if your CPU supports Virtualization Technology, disable it; if your CPU supports Hyperthreading, disable it; if nothing of these aren't supported in your CPU, find a place in BIOS where you can change your RAM frequency and change it (no matter to which value)
5) save you BIOS settings, your computer should automatically turn off and then turn on in a few seconds (this kind of reset is important)
6) now enter BIOS again and restore all settings to the values prior doing step 4
7) after saving settings and restarting your computer should be stable until the end of the day
*) the next day your windows will crash again on boot, but the same procedure should make it stable again. If you want to have your computer stable for more than one day, do not turn it off, use 'sleep' instead.

This procedure helps me, and it's not windows-related problem - it also happens on linux.
I thought it was a hardware malfunction, so I brought my computer to the service, as it's only few weeks old and under warranty.

If this procedure helps you too, then it means that our computers are not malfunctioned, but instead there is some kind of incompatibility between motherboard, processor and memory that should be reported to Asus.
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