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Windows 7: Multiple, assorted BSODs in 2 days...

11 Aug 2010   #31
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roundhouse View Post
@Jonathan_King:
Yeah. I'll RMA the mobo tomorrow...
Keep us updated.

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@ttran:
Really? MSE still uses defender? weird...
Once I finish memtesting the slots/sticks, I'll try to do a normal boot while using only slots 3 & 4 and do another SFC /SCANNOW and also check for stability while playing.
MSE uses part of defender.


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11 Aug 2010   #32
Roundhouse

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Is it possible that memtest would show false errors? I mean I retested slots 1 & 2 with my good sticks and the errors were gone? Previously it would show errors even on my known good sticks.

Based on tests, my 2x1GB Geil sticks are good, while my 2x2GB Team Elite ones are bad. The Team Elite ones were tested on slots 1 & 2 then slots 3 & 4, all showing errors. While the Geil sticks threw errors while in slots 1 & 2, but no errors in slots 3 & 4. But NOW, when I retested the Geil sticks on slots 1 & 2, i can't see errors anymore and now im currently at the 6th pass. I'm still running it just to make sure though.

I'll still bring the machine to the shop tomorrow anyways for them to do their own tests. AFAIK, the Team Elite sticks and the mobo are doing something fishy.

BTW, sorry but I don't see the point of testing the sticks separately when you have dual channel kits. I mean I'll be using them as pairs anyways and if one of them is bad, i have to RMA the pair. Plus if you go dual, you need to use either slots 1&2 or 3&4, well at least for my mobo. So testing a single stick from a dual kit on each slot is a bit too much. (Don't get me wrong, I did it yesterday but with no negative results)
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11 Aug 2010   #33
Jonathan_King

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

The RAM plan sounds good.

MSE uses the Microsoft anti-malware engine. The late One-Care and present day Defender use(d) the same engine.

When another anti-virus is installed, Defender is turned off.
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14 Aug 2010   #34
Roundhouse

Windows 7 x64
 
 

UPDATE: I brought my PC to the service center. They found out that my 2x2GB Team Elite is really the problem and they are going to send it to the distributor for a replacement.

WEIRD THINGS: I told them I did a couple of memtests and came to a conclusion that the Team Elite ones are the problem, so they also did a memtest right there on the spot. The weird thing was that the technician was a bit impatient.He told me that he usually just uses Prime95 since it is quicker in finding errors. True enough, in less than a minute we found errors and officially tagged the sticks for RMA. So does that mean Prime95 is a better test than memtest?

Another weird thing is that the guy mentioned that mixing 2 dual channel kits with different brnds is not recommended and WILL cause errors. Is that true? The only odd thing I noticed from mixing kits from diff manufacturers is that even though they have the same speed, 1333MHz, it gets clocked down to 800MHz.
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14 Aug 2010   #35
Jonathan_King

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Yes, it is not a good idea to mix RAM, especially dual and triple channel. If possible, it's best to buy all RAM at the same time.

Interesting about the Prime95, I'll have to do some research on that with future threads.

I don't think Prime95 will identify which sticks are bad, but perhaps it could be used as a preliminary test to see if any memory issues are present.
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14 Aug 2010   #36
Roundhouse

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Ok. Whew, i was quite happy that mixing 2 dual channel kits from different manufacturers didn't void the warranty

Yeah, I heard about Prime95 but was skeptic since it is ran on windows. I was thinking what if a stop error occured just as Prime95 finds the error, then the test was all for nothing. But the tech reassured me that it wont BSOD.

I might use it to burn-in the new replacement mem sticks when I get them.
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14 Aug 2010   #37
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

I am glad to hear that you isolated your problem. That is good news. Jonathan is spot on; don't mix RAM. That is asking for trouble. Post back when you get your new RAM installed and let us know how you are running.
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24 Aug 2010   #38
Roundhouse

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Just an update:
I'll be getting my replacement 2x2GB DDR3s tomorrow and I'm stoked. Hehehehe.
So far my machine has been stable while using the 2x1GB sticks while waiting for the replacement sticks for the defective 2x2GBs.

Thanks guys for helping me out big time!
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24 Aug 2010   #39
Jonathan_King

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

You're welcome.

I wish you the best of luck with the RAM...keep us posted!
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24 Aug 2010   #40
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roundhouse View Post
Just an update:
I'll be getting my replacement 2x2GB DDR3s tomorrow and I'm stoked. Hehehehe.
So far my machine has been stable while using the 2x1GB sticks while waiting for the replacement sticks for the defective 2x2GBs.

Thanks guys for helping me out big time!
You are welcome and thanks for the update. That is good news and I am glad you have been BSOD free. Let us know when you install the new RAM.
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