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Windows 7: RAM-Related BSODs, Several Times / Day

30 Aug 2010   #21
boldspud

Windows 7 64-Bit
 
 

Thanks for the replies Karl and Dave!

Dave, as per your questions - I've never dared to overclock, because I'm too scared to fry my equipment. I've also not touched my CPU since I received the PC in 2007. The memory is 4 sticks of 2GB G.Skill F2-6400CL5D RAM, which I think I have a lifetime warranty on. Finally, I don't think I've ever played with NB settings (sheepishly, I will admit that I don't know what NB stands for).

Karl - I have SpeedFan running as we speak, and it looks like my system is relatively cool, even under load. The GPU would be the one thing that looks hotter than average, idling at 50-52C. Judging from the buzz on the internet, though, these 8800GT's run super hot anyway...



Here's the update of how this issue is going:

I tinkered with it a bit these past couple of days, and ended up getting the system booting again. Oddly enough, what seemed to work better than anything was switching the RAM clocks to 5-5-5-14 as opposed to the automatically given 5-5-5-15. This only works with one stick in the system however... whenever I add another it seems to crash within the first few minutes of use.

I have been stress-testing the stability of the machine now using Starcraft 2 I can't really play it yet, because whenever 3D graphics present themselves, my system seems to lock up and forces me to reboot (no BSOD). It would appear to be GPU failure, but from watching SpeedFan while it happens it looks like the card only gets up to 60-65C before it crashes. Any ideas?

Also, if anyone has any ideas of why my I can't seem to increase my RAM, that would also be very welcome. I have tested all the sticks individually with MemTest, and they seem to be good.

Haven't received a BSOD since I got the machine booting again (except when I put in more sticks of RAM). Praying that the clean install of Windows 7 helped in that area.


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30 Aug 2010   #22
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Despite the temporary success, go into your bios and set everything back to the defaults.
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30 Aug 2010   #23
boldspud

Windows 7 64-Bit
 
 

Okay! I'll give it a try. The reason I changed it, though, was because the compatibility information on Abit's website for my motherboard says specifically that those clocks work for my IN9 32x Max and the specific type of G.Skill RAM I have.

I'm on my laptop - I'll let you know what happens when I change the BIOS.
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30 Aug 2010   #24
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Be sure and check at the mfg's website for the latest bios version for your computer.
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30 Aug 2010   #25
boldspud

Windows 7 64-Bit
 
 

Abit abandoned me And all of us, unfortunately. I flashed the BIOS to the last release they did for the board about two or three months ago. However, that release happened in early 2008, so it's still pretty dated at this point. Do you think that could be the problem?

I just booted on the auto settings in BIOS, and it worked fine for a while. I tried to put the system under some stress, by opening some videos online simultaneously. Handled it fine, so I opened SC2 again. Again, it worked for about 3-5 minutes before apparently crashing the GPU.

Still no BSODs for debugging, though
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30 Aug 2010   #26
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Unless someone else has a solution, then I would say your choices are to live with the system's capabilities or to get another motherboard from a mfg such as ASUS.
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31 Aug 2010   #27
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by boldspud View Post
Thanks for the replies Karl and Dave!

Dave, as per your questions - I've never dared to overclock, because I'm too scared to fry my equipment. I've also not touched my CPU since I received the PC in 2007. The memory is 4 sticks of 2GB G.Skill F2-6400CL5D RAM, which I think I have a lifetime warranty on. Finally, I don't think I've ever played with NB settings (sheepishly, I will admit that I don't know what NB stands for).

Karl - I have SpeedFan running as we speak, and it looks like my system is relatively cool, even under load. The GPU would be the one thing that looks hotter than average, idling at 50-52C. Judging from the buzz on the internet, though, these 8800GT's run super hot anyway...



Here's the update of how this issue is going:

I tinkered with it a bit these past couple of days, and ended up getting the system booting again. Oddly enough, what seemed to work better than anything was switching the RAM clocks to 5-5-5-14 as opposed to the automatically given 5-5-5-15. This only works with one stick in the system however... whenever I add another it seems to crash within the first few minutes of use.

I have been stress-testing the stability of the machine now using Starcraft 2 I can't really play it yet, because whenever 3D graphics present themselves, my system seems to lock up and forces me to reboot (no BSOD). It would appear to be GPU failure, but from watching SpeedFan while it happens it looks like the card only gets up to 60-65C before it crashes. Any ideas?

Also, if anyone has any ideas of why my I can't seem to increase my RAM, that would also be very welcome. I have tested all the sticks individually with MemTest, and they seem to be good.

Haven't received a BSOD since I got the machine booting again (except when I put in more sticks of RAM). Praying that the clean install of Windows 7 helped in that area.
NB is the abbreviation for North Bridge, read here for some info.

When you tested your RAM, did you test them in different slots?
This will tell you if any of your motherboard slots are bad.
Follow this guide for testing your RAM: How to Test and Diagnose RAM Issues with Memtest86+

New games will stress your graphics card, they will push it to it's limits but, it shouldn't cause it to crash. This may indicate a problem with motherboard, north bridge controller, RAM, graphics card.

For now test your RAM in different slots as described in the tutorial above.
This will help diagnosing part of the motherboard.

Have you tried clearing the CMOS?
Check your motherboard manual for instructions.

Can you post a snip of the CPUZ memory and SPD tabs?
In the start menu search box, type 'Snipping Tool' then enter, save to convenient place, add to your next post using this method, How to Post a Screenshot in Seven Forums.

Go to 'Voltages Control' in your BIOS and tell us what the voltages are for:
CPU Core Voltage
DDR2 SDRAM Voltage
NB Voltage
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13 Sep 2010   #28
boldspud

Windows 7 64-Bit
 
 

I am officially at a loss

I have tinkered and researched this issue for multiple months now. Here's where everything stands:

The good news is that the computer runs 100% stable now with only one stick of RAM in use.

However, the unfortunate part of that is that only 2GB of RAM isn't quite enough to run all of the programs / games that I frequently need. Whenever I put a second stick in (and the RAM itself is good - plenty of MemTesting went into ensuring that), I get the same BSODs (BAD POOL, IRQL, etc.) almost instantly after booting.

Any ideas of how I can get this machine running with even 4GB of RAM?
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13 Sep 2010   #29
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

If you would like to, you can answer the questions in my last post.

Sounds like a hardware issue, probably the RAM.

Adjusting the settings might solve it.

There are other tests to stress the system a bit more.

If your RAM passes memtest86+ its a good indication that it is probably ok, but doesn't mean it is 100% ok, as you've already seen.

There are several things that can be checked.

You mentioned that RAM card #1 passed in Slot #1, then RAM card #1 failed in Slot #2.
Did you test another known good RAM card in slot #2?
You need to verify if that slot is bad.

You also said your tightened the RAM clock to 5-5-5-14 and with one card the system would run, but not with more than one card.
Does the system run with one card at 5-5-5-15?

Previously you mentioned CPUZ, this is a monitoring program and it tells you what your settings are and what the JEDEC settings are. This is important information that might help us. The JEDEC settings are in the CPUZ SPD tab.

We also need to know the voltage settings for CPU Core, DDR2 SDRAM, and the NB Voltage.

Tell us the idle and load temps for CPU, GPU.

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Also, if anyone has any ideas of why my I can't seem to increase my RAM, that would also be very welcome. I have tested all the sticks individually with MemTest, and they seem to be good.
With some settings checking and verification, we can try a couple of things.
It's best to check the voltage settings mentioned above first.
Looks to me like you need a NB bump, be careful with this, we need to check other things first.

Let us know if you want to continue.
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13 Sep 2010   #30
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

BoldSpud,

Do I understand correctly that with only two GB the computer runs correctly and with more the computer does not?

If you pull out the working 2gb stick and put in another, does the compute run correctly? Make this test for each memory stick, only one stick at a time.

If this test passes, then go from 2 GB and test again. Then go to 6 GB, then go to 8 GB.

Let us know the results. If this fails to fault-isolate a bad chip, and the bios is set to the defaults, and the memory is a memory approved by your computer manufacturer, then you have a bad memory slot and/or bad motherboard.

I am at the end of my possible suggestions.
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