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Windows 7: Constant Random BSODs on a 5 days old system

08 Sep 2010   #111

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64

The results look good.

If Prime95 is running all cores at 100% then it's working.
The low temps aren't bad, just unusual, maybe thats normal for your CPU.

Run Prime95 or LinX for 30 minutes, as you mentioned.
If it passes, install the other RAM stick and run Prime95 or LinX again, if it passes you can use your computer normally and see if it remains stable, play your most computer stressing/demanding games.

Memtest86+, Prime95 and LinX are good testing apps but it's not impossible for the problem to return.
There can be several reasons for this, hopefully it will run stable.

If the tests don't pass, give detailed info here and we'll proceed to the next step.

Let us know the progress.

That TMPIN2 82c, is a bit high.
Will depend on your motherboard what that is for, from your pics it's not CPU, GPU or HDD.
Might be NB temp, if your friend can hold his finger on it, it can't be 82c.
Might be case temp, which would tell me that the sensor is bad.
Has it always been like that?

You can try this:
I have this same "issue" with my Phenom II x4 940 (in both Speedfan and CPUID Hardware Monitor).

Speedfan is displaying inaccurate values. There are two kinds of temperature monitoring devices in place on motherboards, thermistors and diodes. If the diode is set to read as a thermistor it will give you unusually high numbers as you're seeing, and I'd imagine the opposite is true of a thermistor being read as diode (although I haven't experienced this personally).

To remedy the issue in speedfan, select the "configure" button on the "readings" tab.

Select the "advanced" tab.

On the "chip" drop-down menu there should be two choices, "AMD K10 at..." and another that is specific to your motherboard. Choose the one that isn't "AMD K10 at..."

There should be a list of values in the box below the drop-down menu.
On my machine the first three under the "Property" column being:

Temperature sensor diode 1
Temperature sensor diode 2
Temperature sensor diode 3

The "Value" column adjacent to these indicates whether it is being read as a thermistor or diode.

You can select one of these values and then in the "Set to" drop-down menu below set the "Value" to thermistor or diode.


In my case the "Property" said diode right in the description and the "Value" was set to thermistor so it was fairly straight forward to just switch the "Value" to diode and the temperature came to a much more realistic ~35C.

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08 Sep 2010   #112

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by soaringink View Post
I am having exact same behavior on ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO mobo. Just now finalized both mobo bios and video driver update (direct from ATI). (The card is Sapphire 512mb, windows had loaded its own WDM drivers). My CPUID returned 9,9,9,24,33 so I will try those settings and the volt bumps. Here though, I have four brand new builds, exactly the same. In the 7 days since install, three crash repeatedly while one has not crashed ever. Sure smells like unstable RAM production.
Welcome to Seven Forums.

Good call on the BIOS and video drivers.
Check for chipset drivers and update if you find a newer one.

You can set your RAM timings manually to 9-9-9-24, leave the rest on Auto.

Including his first post on page 2, he clarified ganged and unganged info.

If your not set to unganged, change it.

D/L CPUZ and post the Memory and SPD tabs.

What is you current RAM voltage settings?
Don't recommend going past 1.65v.

Let us know your progress.
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09 Sep 2010   #113

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM


I'll install the other ram stick and do the prime test.
If it doesnt work with 2 sticks, does it mean that stick one doesn't support the higher voltage, or does it mean that because stick 1 is inserted too, the voltage drops a little resulting in stick 2 failing?

Notice, when I tried the work arround from that guy the temp 80 went to -78, so I guess that didn't work xD
I don't know why the temps are so low?
I changed another value and the fan started spinning like hell. (reminds me why I didn't set "fan speed" to FULL in the bios but let it be "Automatic"

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09 Sep 2010   #114

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64

Did RAM card #2 pass the Prime95 test for 30 minutes?

Those are the two most likely possibilities and of coarse, that RAM card (#2) is bad and won't play nicely with others.

If it won't pass with both cards inserted, we can do some minor voltage adjustments.
Now we know card #2 will work with a little more voltage.
Maybe a little NB Voltage bump, you have to very careful with this, lets not do this until last.

Let me know how it's going.
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09 Sep 2010   #115

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM

I think both test(ram 2 in slot 2 and both(1in1 and 2in2)) passed prime.
Also I think I found my "real" coretemp, being arround 40 something during prime.

I'll play some games and see if that works

Another question is: Is this higher voltage bad for either the RAM or the MOBO, because if that's the case I'll just RMA the ram/mobo(both bought at the same company). Thanks
And I might someday be interested in overclocking, due to this "start" I'm getting used to stability tests :P
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09 Sep 2010   #116

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64

Good news both RAM cards passed.

Games are a good stress test, let us know if it stays stable.

Too high voltages are not good, you are still within the safe and reasonable limits.

You could RMA the RAM but, there's no guarantee that the new RAM wouldn't need the same adjustments.
Then again, they might not...

Be very careful of the overclocking bug, once bitten...
You'll be running stability tests all the time

It's an interesting learning experience, read up on the subject and then have fun.

Let us know how the system is running, this info will be useful to many others with similar issues.
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10 Sep 2010   #117

Windows 7 Ultimate X64

so much trouble with a very new system, wouldn't it be easier to return it and get a functioning one? I'd understand if it would be a year old system, then you would try anything to get it back working, but atm if anything fails - no refunds.
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15 Sep 2010   #118

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM

Hi Guys,

Long time no see. I just played SC for 2 hours and upon alt+f4 ing out of the game I got a crash(not the best way to exit a game, will never do so etc etc)
But here are the files:
Everything is touchable, except the NB, which is damned hot!@
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17 Sep 2010   #119

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM

I just figured out I was still running on DirectX 9,0c.
I Updated it now. Will let you guys know
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17 Sep 2010   #120

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64

Thanks for the update.

Let us know how it's going.
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