Constant Random BSODs on a 5 days old system

iTitus · 21 Oct 2010

I decided to test the GFX card one more time.
That all worked out fine without crashes etc.

I'm emailing back and forth with the shop now.

Edit:
The guy said that if Memtest gave error's, the memory would probably be broken and that a RMA should solve it. So I decided to do that.
Upon getting (hopefully) new RAM I'll remove the DRAM Voltage bump and see what the new ram does in memtest86 :P

Dave76 · 21 Oct 2010

Sounds like a good plan.

What RAM are you getting?

Make sure it's RAM made for the AMD motherboard, 'standard or Intel RAM' won't run as well as RAM designed for AMD.
You'll have better luck with 1333MHz or lower RAM, anything higher will be difficult to get running.

Start out with XMP enabled in your BIOS, this should be the best setting.
Then check all RAM settings to be sure they match the recommended manufactures specs. It should be in un-ganged mode.
Run Memtest86+.

You may still need to bump the NB voltage, this is common for AMD RAM.

Let us know how it's going.

iTitus · 22 Oct 2010

I'll be getting the same GEIL modules. Which were tested by Gigabyte and approved...

iTitus · 26 Oct 2010

Ok so Image I could pick new RAM. Which RAM should I pick with my system.
I'm looking for 4gb in the first place, but you know 8gb is not wrong, just a little expensive :P
Also, here's a support list from my MoBo.

System
https://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-d...tml#post917681

Dave76 · 26 Oct 2010

It depends on which brand you prefer.

From your motherboard DDR3 1333 RAM list.

C13C1 2GB CORSAIR CM3X8GX3M4A1333C9 DS

G13C1 2GB GEIL GG34GB1333C9DC DS

GSET13C1 2GB G.SKILL F3-10666CL8D-4GBECO DS

Be sure to double check that the RAM is specifically designed for an AMD motherboard.
If it says Intel or doesn't name either, I would check for another from the motherboard RAM list.

Let us know how it's going.

iTitus · 04 Nov 2010

Just got my ram back. Triple bad:
It's different ram -_-
a) it's to big to fit under my cpu cooler, so 2/4 slots can't be used
b) it's C9 in stead of C7
c) one of the two sticks won't boot at all

Really thinking about different memory now.
Can someone with one of the memories named in the post by dave measure how high they are?

Thanks

Dave76 · 06 Nov 2010

With my Gigabyte Intel board, CM Hyper 212 Plus, Corsair XMS DDR3 RAM, I have about 1mm clearance between the fan on the CPU cooler and the first RAM card.
The CPU cooling fan just barely covers about 30% of the first RAM card, just enough to cause a problem if the Ram was 1mm higher.
Mine is 28mm from socket to top of RAM card, Ram installed in socket.

If your board layout is similar to mine, you definitely won't fit the Corsair Dominators, the heat sink is too big. The XMS should fit.

Measure the space between your RAM socket and the Hyper 212 Plus fan housing, post it here.

I Would search/ask at the Corsair forum (or other RAM Forum), give them the above measurement.
Memory Compatibility

Better to get 2 RAM cards, as there are reports of problems when using 4 cards.
Now is the time to plan for any future upgrades. Go with 8GB now if you think you might want it later.
Or take the chance that 4 cards will work on your board.

iTitus · 06 Nov 2010

Just got email from the shop. Their mistake, they will be sending me the memory I had, but a fresh one. It seems all issue's will be solved and it will fit and I got my nice timings back.
Let's wait and see.
I'll get back on you guys.
Thanks

Dave76 · 07 Nov 2010

Thanks for the update, let us know the results.

iTitus · 15 Nov 2010

jeeeeej
/sarcasm mode off

I got my new RAM today. Popped it in, got past bios but freezed at windows logo.
I tried a few times and managed to get it past windows logo a few times, and even into windows itself. But even changing resolution or running 2 programs made it crash.
So I've got a few BSOD's for you

Also I would like tell you about the configuration:

From the wrong RAM they sent me one stick was just broken(didn't even bios, beep error code no memory)
The other one booted fine in slots 2,3,4.(It didn't fit into slot 1 because it was too high and my CPU cooler is there)

The new correct RAM is extremely unstable.
Stick 1 didn't finish winboot in slot 1,1,4(it did boot after I wobbled it arround a bit)
It did boot once in slot 3 and not after that.
Stick 2 didn't boot in 1,2,3(after pressing it harder into the mobo it did get past winlogo but crashed on windows welcome)
and slot 4 gave me a BSOD

I was so sick of this that I tried the wrong RAM again:
Stick 1 still beeped no memory and stick 2 still booted without problems

I mean, this is clear isn't it? No memtest86 is required?

But still I don't have a clue.
My only guess is that this New correct ram is faulty aswell, in which case I will return it and get another brand that is on the QVL.

The other guess is that my MOBO is the problem. I can't really imagine why.
But a good solution seemed to get both a new(different) mobo and new(different) RAM.

This would be a costly solution, also given the fact that I would need new thermal past etc etc etc.

Could you have a look at the BSOD and advise what to do with the RAM and/or Mobo

Thanks!!