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Windows 7: x58A-UD3R - included: Dump & System files

13 Oct 2010   #11
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Ok, that's good.
We have had people trying several different things suggested on several different forums and it just makes it impossible to get a handle on what is going on with the system.

Due to the issues you are having, RAM not recognized etc., it is worth the risk to try the BIOS Gigabyte sent you. If this motherboard is having issues, hopefully they are trying to get it fixed.

We'll have to keep this in mind as you work through the issues.

The Real Temp snip you posted, is that with your system at idle?
If it is then it's running very hot.
Shutdown your computer and gently try to turn the CPU cooler, if it moves then it is too loose, try tightening it up.
Check temps again.

If this doesn't lower the temps you will need to take it off, clean and re-apply the thermal paste, check idle temps again.


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13 Oct 2010   #12
hello people

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Yeah that was during idle. The temps got bad after I tweaked the bios setting as per this:

This is what the bios was like before I tweaked it:

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [n/a no entry for this] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. 4.8Ghz
Uncore Frequency .......................... (2667mhz)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[n/a no entry for this]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133mhz
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto]

C.I.A.2 [n/a no entry for this]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[700mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [n/a no entry for this]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Auto]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................
tRCD .......................................
tRP .........................................
tRAS .......................................

Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
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##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................
tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................

I gues config for this was:
7 7 7 20 4 19 60 1

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................47

B2B CAS Delay ..........................- (Auto)


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]
CPU Vcore ...............................1.25000V (Auto)
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.175v
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................(Auto)

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v .....................
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v (Auto)..............
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]


And this is after I tweaked bios:

CPU Clock Drive ..............................[700mV]set to 800mv
CPU Vcore ...............................1.25000V (Auto)-set to normal in voltage list for stock cpu clocks
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.175v-set to around 1.25000-1.30000v
DRAM Voltage 1.500v (Auto)set according to ram,either 1.5v or 1.66v
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO] set to give you rated ram speed 1600mhz ect either 8x or 10x ect

DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Auto]set manual and type in ram timings below(select quick to set timings for all ram installed)



Channel A + B + C



Channel A Timing Settings:

##Channel A Standard Timing Control##

CAS Latency Time ......................9

tRCD .......................................9

tRP .........................................9

tRAS .......................................24

CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]disable this and use balanced profile setting in windows7
Control Panel\System and Security\Power Options

Anything suspicious...because the heat of the cpu only got hotter after I changed the bios settings


Have reseated cooler and cleaned thermal paste and reapplied...temps range from 34-39%. Distance to tj max.....mid 60's

EDIT: I have flashed to FC2 now...should I zip crash logs again now?

I was going to run the memtest over night....and see what happens in the morning/ tomorrow with cold boots...

Task manager shows some little cpu spikes....like 0-7/8%......which I never noticed before...perhaps some slight bios tweaking needed?
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13 Oct 2010   #13
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

The temps are much better since you reseated the cooler.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hello people View Post
An UPDATE:

On another forum it's been found that the x58A-UD3R Rev2 Mobo only supports some ADATA Ram...just a few types. Of the 1600 ram it supports, the supported list says:

AX3U1600GB2G9AG

But my Ram is:

AX3U1600GB29G1G

Is this relevant to the problem?
Sometimes you can get RAM to work by adjusting the settings, but not all the time.

Your best bet is to get RAM listed on the motherboards compatible RAM list.

Can you post the link to this RAM information?

If you can RMA your RAM and get an recommended/approved RAM or from the mobo compatible list you will get the results you are looking for.
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13 Oct 2010   #14
hello people

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

REPOST EDIT: I have flashed to FC2 now...should I zip crash logs again now?

I was going to run the memtest over night....and see what happens in the morning/ tomorrow with cold boots...

Task manager shows some little cpu spikes....like 0-7/8%......which I never noticed before...perhaps some slight bios tweaking needed?


The site that shows RAM compatibles for the board:
http://download.gigabyte.asia/FileLi...-ud3r_v2.0.pdf

There's an outside chance the new FC2 will be updated to recognise my ram right?
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13 Oct 2010   #15
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Run the Memtest86+ tests and follow this tutorial:


Follow the steps in Part 3, this will test the RAM cards and the motherboard slots.

If you get errors you can stop the test, note what the errors are and let us know.


I wouldn't worry about the CPU spikes, it's likely ok. If you want to know what it's doing use Task Manager and check the Processes tab.
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13 Oct 2010   #16
hello people

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Ok...I will run the memtests and post back later...getting late here...I've been at this all day and night really + fitting in my job.

Anyway...I have the new FC2 in bios and just to make known what I've done...I altered some settings from default by changing these setting entries:

System memory multiplier - 12
Dram voltage - 1.66v
Timings - 8-8-8-24

ok...be back later

thanks
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13 Oct 2010   #17
hello people

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I have run memtest for 6 and a half hours. I don't know where to find the results...but this is what I wrote down from the memtest screen:

ECC: disabled
BCLK: 133
QPI: 4.7
Wall time: 6:31
Pass: 6
Errors: 2
ECC Errors: 0

Tst: 7
Pass: 1
Failing Address: 00027f2cf40 - 639.1MB
Good: 09341ece
Bad: 093c1ece
Err-Bits: 00080000
Count: 1
Chan

Ram: 799Mhz (DDR3-1598)
Cas: 8-8-8-24

Seems there is some error...but I don't know exactly what to make of this

I will go on to part 3 of the memtest instructions

I guess I will be some time testing all 3 sticks
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13 Oct 2010   #18
hello people

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

So far I checked 1 stick in one slot....failure on pass 10 and pass 13...16 total passes. I suppose I left it a bit long.

I just don't know what bios settings to use when I do the memtest...any tips?
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14 Oct 2010   #19
hello people

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Ok Ive been testing my ram with latest bios fc2@optimized defaults bios settings for five hrs and twenty seven minutes......almost six passes compete. Zero errors. Could it almost be safe to assume the ram is ok?
I will continue to test...should I?

7 full passes.....almost 7 hours testing....ZERO errors.

I've stopped the testing. And I am going to assume that the ram is ok and so is the mobo....physically.

So now I should wait for a chance to cold boot....and see what happens
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14 Oct 2010   #20
hello people

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I just adjusted optimised default fc2 bios with these changes:

set ram to run at 1600 (that's the speed of the ram)
set ram/ memory multi to 12
set timings clock to 9 9 9 24 (that's the stated timing of the ram)

Plan to test ram again....should I test one at a time in each slot?
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