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Windows 7: New Hardware, Clean install

26 Oct 2010   #21
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Let's assume the driver is OK for the moment. It could be that the ESET driver was causing the interference. Third part antivirus programs and firewalls can cause the types of crashes by interfering with the graphics. Rename the ESET driver and reboot. Let's see what happens.


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27 Oct 2010   #22
Trinitrotoluene

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail
 
 

I have renamed eamonm.sys to .bak, screenshot. Ran furmark untill the temperature was leveled out, screenshot.

Then I turned on driver verifier and got 3 BSOD's. They didn't get dumped to the harddrive, so I took pictures of them (below). Is that normal? I hope the error codes are useful. Nevertheless I will still attach the normal .zip file here.

Also, I can't seem to acces this site, and some others, while driver verifier is active (I am in safemode right now just for this post). So I will turn it off now to see if that is really the case. EDIT: driver verifier off, and I can acces this site again. Perhaps that tells you something as well.

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http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4...1027103513.jpg


Also, do you require a perfmon /report everytime with the .zip file? Or is the Windows_NT6_BSOD_v3.03_jcgriff2_ app from now on enough?
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27 Oct 2010   #23
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Good job on following through. Unfortunately, we need the Driver Verifier dumps. Hopefully the they point to the offending driver(s). Make sure your system is still set up for mini dumps. Check the last part of the first post in this tutorial: https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...en-forums.html. The error codes are right for for a Driver Verifier enabled dump, C4.

It is not necessary to run Perfmon every time unless you make a hardware change or a software change.


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27 Oct 2010   #24
Trinitrotoluene

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail
 
 

Unfortunely it doesn't continue to write the dump file to the hard drive upon crash with driver verifier enabled. I changed the write debugging information to "small memory dump (256kb)". Now I've also turned on automatically restart, but I doubt that would make a difference. Any suggestions? Or has this gone from bad to worse now :-(
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27 Oct 2010   #25
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

I do not know why it is not writing the dumps. Turn Driver Verifier off, run for a while and then turn it back on again.
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27 Oct 2010   #26
Trinitrotoluene

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail
 
 

Alright, will do and see where that brings me.

If necessary though; feeling as if I'm running out of options here, I decided to run memtest again a few moments ago. It turned up with some errors. So I rebooted the system, ran it again. And again errors, so I'm assuming they're hard errors.

The modules are new, so is the motherboard of course - but it's the second set of modules. Chances of them being broken AGAIN? I don't know. Remember I did a 16 hour run before, no errors. And now there are errors, so perhaps they turned faulty in the meanwhile. Though somehow, in this case, I find it more plausible that the motherboard is messed up in a way. But all this is still new for me.

Will do some testing in re-seating the modules, swapping them around. Perhaps another in-dept analysis of testing single modules, like before. I'll also go over to the OCZ forum again. On which I'll show this situation with bios screenshots of the memory timings and voltages and see if there's still a wrong setting. Perhaps it's even bend CPU pins on the motherboard - I don't know. I do know that I took GREAT care in installing everything.

I guess this is both good and bad news, as we're still getting closer to a solution. I ran out of luck a long long time ago, or so it seems...

Faulty motherboard memory slots, faulty modules again - it all IS in line with the BSOD's I'm getting. Especially considering I have already removed all the possible software that can mess up and have updated drivers.


Will keep you posted, please don't hold back any thoughts you still have on this issue. Thanks again!
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27 Oct 2010   #27
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

If Memetest found errors, you obviously have a RAM problem. Follow through with that. There is no need to work with Driver Verifier unless you have further BSOD's after you get your RAM problem ironed out. Do keep us updated, please. And good luck!
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30 Oct 2010   #28
Trinitrotoluene

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail
 
 

Hi again Carl,

I have been running prime95 blend the past 2 nights, without crashes. Also normal usage in windows and games without crashes. So memory modules, software side of things and CPU are OK.

Long story short, I checked all the memory slots on the motherboards for any faults. All connectors looked perfect to me, even used a magnifying glass. I did find a little piece of material in slot #1, which I removed. Not sure if that may have caused these problems. But since this type of hardware is quite delicate, it may just have messed things up - I sure hope so! ;-)

I'll keep the system running normally, probably turn it off tonight and then stress it again the next day from cold boot. It's looking better then before so lets hope it stays this way. Pretty weird problem though! The way it crashed and showed errors doesn't seem to be in line with the very small piece of material I found in the slot. But then again, you never know, it's still a computer. However, it might explain why reseating the modules did seem to help resolve errors in memtest. But if you add the first set of actually broken modules to this whole scenario, it makes you second guess everything.

It's probably safe to assume the software side of things is OK. Though I will not reinstall daemon tools after what I heard from you. And I might just keep avast as well - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So that's where I'm at right now. I feel that it's just a bit too soon to officially call it, so lets see what happens for a bit longer.


May I ask about your experience with Hamachi on windows 7 (probably version 2.0?). Is it known to cause trouble like daemon tools and nod32 might do?
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30 Oct 2010   #29
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

I am sure glad to hear you have had a couple of days and nights without crashes. That is good news! A little piece of dust or debris in a RAM slot can most certainly cause a problem. It has happened before - many times. I, too, hope removing that debris is the solution. Good find and good work. It is a good idea to run Memtest from a cold boot. Let us know the results.

Regarding Logmein, I recall one thread where we suggested the OP uninstall it. What I do not remember is why - were the drivers obsolete or did a dump blame Logmein? If your system is stable, you can try it. If you start getting BSOD's, you can uninstall it. I have not had much experience with it other than that one BSOD thread I mentioned. You can see if it is on the Win 7 compatibility list:

Windows 7 Compatibility: Software Programs & Hardware Devices: Find Updates, Drivers, & Downloads

Wise call not to reinstall Daemon or Alcohol. You can use MagicDisc instead. It does not use the sptd.sys driver.

Freeware MagicISO Virtual CD/DVD-ROM(MagicDisc) Overview

We hope to hear a good report in a couple of days that you have no more crashes!
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31 Oct 2010   #30
Trinitrotoluene

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail
 
 

Everything has been fine since I removed that piece of debris from the slot. Though, this morning upon cold boot I did get errors in memtest. But NO problems whatsoever during normal usage, and that included once again blend prime95.

Will do a prime95 blend run tomorrow from cold boot and see what that brings. This cold boot thing seems to be a known phenomenon, but not necessarily a problem. If normal usage is all fine, I don't care about what memtest says during cold boot. So, looking good once again so far.

And it seems hamachi 2 for W7 should be just fine!
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