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  1. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #1

    Constant BSOD


    Hello everyone :)

    I've been putting up with this issue for some time now, and starting to get tired of this operating system. I've been getting a 0x0000000A BSOD over the last month on my system which is about 12 months old.

    I run windows 7 professional x64.

    I've tried running memtest86+ several times, and have had no luck in finding any errors.
    I've done complete clean installs and ran updates for all my hardware through windows update.

    The only problems that I can identify are what I see in the event viewer in the 'manage' section of the computer. I've been getting a critical error consisting of 'Kernell Power - ID 41', which I have no knowledge of what that jazz is about, lol.

    I made a .zip using the SF Diag tool in an attachment.

    Hope someone can point me in some kind of direction :)
    Thanks heaps.
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  2. Posts : 28,845
    Win 8 Release candidate 8400
       #2

    Shappo said:
    Hello everyone :)

    I've been putting up with this issue for some time now, and starting to get tired of this operating system. I've been getting a 0x0000000A BSOD over the last month on my system which is about 12 months old.

    I run windows 7 professional x64.

    I've tried running memtest86+ several times, and have had no luck in finding any errors.
    I've done complete clean installs and ran updates for all my hardware through windows update.

    The only problems that I can identify are what I see in the event viewer in the 'manage' section of the computer. I've been getting a critical error consisting of 'Kernell Power - ID 41', which I have no knowledge of what that jazz is about, lol.

    I made a .zip using the SF Diag tool in an attachment.

    Hope someone can point me in some kind of direction :)
    Thanks heaps.

    Ok the 4 here are caused by memory management. Now it is quite possible that a driver is causing that. In fact probable. When you run memtest you run it outside of windows so no drivers are loaded. Inside windows all the drivers load and one doesn't play nice. SEE SNIP AT BOTTOM


    Most of yours are up to date so I suggest at this point you run driver verifier to find out which driver is causing the grief.


    Beyond that, please run Verifier with these settings:
    Using Driver Verifier is an iffy proposition. Most times it'll crash and it'll tell you what the driver is. But sometimes it'll crash and won't tell you the driver. Other times it'll crash before you can log in to Windows. If you can't get to Safe Mode, then you'll have to resort to offline editing of the registry to disable Driver Verifier.

    So, I'd suggest that you first backup your stuff and then make sure you've got access to another computer so you can contact us if problems arise. Then make a System Restore point (so you can restore the system using the Vista/Win7 Startup Repair feature).

    Then, here's the procedure:
    - Go to Start and type in "verifier" (without the quotes) and press Enter
    - Select "Create custom settings (for code developers)" and click "Next"
    - Select "Select individual settings from a full list" and click "Next"
    - Select everything EXCEPT FOR "Low Resource Simulation" and click "Next"
    NOTE: You can use Low Resource Simulation if you'd like. From my limited experimentation it makes the BSOD's come faster.
    - Select "Select driver names from a list" and click "Next"
    Then select all drivers NOT provided by Microsoft and click "Next"
    - Select "Finish" on the next page.
    Reboot the system and wait for it to crash to the Blue Screen. Continue to use your system normally, and if you know what causes the crash, do that repeatedly. The objective here is to get the system to crash because Driver Verifier is stressing the drivers out. If it doesn't crash for you, then let it run for at least 36 hours of continuous operation (an estimate on my part).

    Reboot into Windows (after the crash) and turn off Driver Verifier by going back in and selecting "Delete existing settings" on the first page, then locate and zip up the memory dump file and upload it with your next post.

    If you can't get into Windows because it crashes too soon, try it in Safe Mode.
    If you can't get into Safe Mode, try using System Restore from your installation DVD to set the system back to the previous restore point that you created.

    If that doesn't work, post back and we'll have to see about fixing the registry entry off-line:
    Code:
    Delete these registry keys (works in XP, Vista, Win7):
            HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\VerifyDrivers
            HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\VerifyDriverLevel
    Using Driver Verifier to identify issues with Windows drivers for advanced users


    Let us know if you need assistance


    ken J
    Last edited by zigzag3143; 26 Jan 2011 at 03:53.
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  3. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Hey ken, thanks for the reply.
    I will try the driver verifier when I get home, i'll keep you posted how it goes.
    Cheers :)
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  4. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Okay.

    I followed your procedure precisely.

    *After setting up the verifier, and then restarting the computer for it to take effect. I immediately received a 0x00000024 BSOD which occurred before loading to the desktop.

    *I then rebooted, 'deleted existing settings' and made another .zip from the SF diag tool consisting of my minidump, driver list etc...

    Anything I didn't do?

    Thanks.
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  5. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Any idea?
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  6. Posts : 10
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #6

    Just out of curiosity, what kind of HDD(s) are you using? I'm assuming SATA. If this is the case, can you tell me which channels it/they are on and whether or not they are set to master/slave?
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  7. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #7

    Your latest dump is not a Driver Verifier enabled dump.
    Error code 24, NTFS File system. Usual causes: Disk corruption, insufficient physical memory, Device driver, Indexing, Resident antivirus, backup, defrag programs, Disk/Drive failing/failure
    I suggest you run Check Disk.
    Run CHKDSK /R /F from an elevated (Run as adminstrator) Command Prompt. Please do this for each hard drive on your system.
    When it tells you it can't do it right now - and asks you if you'd like to do it at the next reboot - answer Y (for Yes) and press Enter. Then reboot and let the test run. It may take a while for it to run, but keep an occasional eye on it to see if it generates any errors. See "CHKDSK LogFile" below in order to check the results of the test.

    Elevated Command Prompt:
    Go to Start and type in "cmd.exe" (without the quotes)
    At the top of the Search Box, right click on Cmd.exe and select "Run as administrator"

    CHKDSK LogFile:
    Go to Start and type in "eventvwr.msc" (without the quotes) and press Enter
    Expand the Windows logs heading, then select the Application log file entry.
    Double click on the Source column header.
    Scroll down the list until you find the Chkdsk entry (wininit for Windows 7) (winlogon for XP).

    Copy/paste the results into your next post.
    Code:
    Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
    Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
    Built by: 7600.16617.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100618-1621
    Machine Name:
    Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02a60000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02c9de50
    Debug session time: Tue Nov 16 03:53:44.627 2010 (GMT-5)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:09.704
    Loading Kernel Symbols
    ...............................................................
    ......................
    Loading User Symbols
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    
    BugCheck 24, {1904fb, fffff880031b49a8, fffff880031b4210, fffff80002af02b3}
    
    Probably caused by : Ntfs.sys ( Ntfs!NtfsNonCachedIo+23f )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    1: kd> !analyze -v
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM (24)
        If you see NtfsExceptionFilter on the stack then the 2nd and 3rd
        parameters are the exception record and context record. Do a .cxr
        on the 3rd parameter and then kb to obtain a more informative stack
        trace.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 00000000001904fb
    Arg2: fffff880031b49a8
    Arg3: fffff880031b4210
    Arg4: fffff80002af02b3
    
    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    
    
    EXCEPTION_RECORD:  fffff880031b49a8 -- (.exr 0xfffff880031b49a8)
    ExceptionAddress: fffff80002af02b3 (nt!IopCompleteRequest+0x0000000000000ae3)
       ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
      ExceptionFlags: 00000000
    NumberParameters: 2
       Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
       Parameter[1]: ffffffffffffffff
    Attempt to read from address ffffffffffffffff
    
    CONTEXT:  fffff880031b4210 -- (.cxr 0xfffff880031b4210)
    rax=fffff880031b5f80 rbx=fffff98002984ee0 rcx=0000c68f00520050
    rdx=0000c68f00520050 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=0000000000000000
    rip=fffff80002af02b3 rsp=fffff880031b4be0 rbp=0000000000000000
     r8=fffff880031b4ce8  r9=fffff880031b4ce0 r10=0000000000000002
    r11=fffff80002aef7d0 r12=fffff880031b5f78 r13=0000000000000000
    r14=fffffa800462db60 r15=fffff880009e8180
    iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe cy
    cs=0010  ss=0018  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010203
    nt!IopCompleteRequest+0xae3:
    fffff800`02af02b3 488b09          mov     rcx,qword ptr [rcx] ds:002b:0000c68f`00520050=????????????????
    Resetting default scope
    
    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    
    CURRENT_IRQL:  2
    
    ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.
    
    EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.
    
    EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  0000000000000000
    
    EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  ffffffffffffffff
    
    READ_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from fffff80002d080e0
     ffffffffffffffff 
    
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    Ntfs!NtfsNonCachedIo+23f
    fffff880`0125e05f 498b4d78        mov     rcx,qword ptr [r13+78h]
    
    FAULTING_IP: 
    nt!IopCompleteRequest+ae3
    fffff800`02af02b3 488b09          mov     rcx,qword ptr [rcx]
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x24
    
    IRP_ADDRESS:  ffffffffffffff89
    
    LOCK_ADDRESS:  fffff80002cd4400 -- (!locks fffff80002cd4400)
    
    Resource @ nt!PiEngineLock (0xfffff80002cd4400)    Available
    
    WARNING: SystemResourcesList->Flink chain invalid. Resource may be corrupted, or already deleted.
    
    
    WARNING: SystemResourcesList->Blink chain invalid. Resource may be corrupted, or already deleted.
    
    1 total locks
    
    PNP_TRIAGE: 
        Lock address  : 0xfffff80002cd4400
        Thread Count  : 0
        Thread address: 0x0000000000000000
        Thread wait   : 0x0
    
    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff80002aad0c7 to fffff80002af02b3
    
    STACK_TEXT:  
    fffff880`031b4be0 fffff800`02aad0c7 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!IopCompleteRequest+0xae3
    fffff880`031b4cb0 fffff800`02ad7b9d : fffffa80`0462db60 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiDeliverApc+0x1d7
    fffff880`031b4d30 fffff800`02ad9cff : fffff880`031b5200 fffffa80`05ace040 00000000`00000000 fffff880`031b4f60 : nt!KiCommitThreadWait+0x3dd
    fffff880`031b4dc0 fffff880`0125e05f : fffffa80`0578ad00 00000000`00000000 fffff8a0`0447f100 0053002b`002b0000 : nt!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
    fffff880`031b4e60 fffff880`01261526 : fffff880`031b5200 fffff980`029f2c10 fffff8a0`0447f140 fffff8a0`0447f010 : Ntfs!NtfsNonCachedIo+0x23f
    fffff880`031b5030 fffff880`01263f78 : fffff880`031b5200 fffff980`029f2c10 fffff880`031b5301 fffffa80`058cc001 : Ntfs!NtfsCommonRead+0x7a6
    fffff880`031b51d0 fffff800`02f76c16 : fffff980`029f2c10 fffff980`029f2c10 fffffa80`058cc030 fffffa80`059ed960 : Ntfs!NtfsFsdRead+0x1b8
    fffff880`031b53d0 fffff880`0105e23f : fffff980`029f2fb0 fffff880`031b5480 fffffa80`05cda220 fffffa80`059ed960 : nt!IovCallDriver+0x566
    fffff880`031b5430 fffff880`0105c6df : fffffa80`05787cf0 fffffa80`05787cf0 fffffa80`05787c00 fffff980`029f2c10 : fltmgr!FltpLegacyProcessingAfterPreCallbacksCompleted+0x24f
    fffff880`031b54c0 fffff800`02f76c16 : fffff980`029f2c10 00000000`00000002 fffffa80`05bf6f20 fffffa80`03baa418 : fltmgr!FltpDispatch+0xcf
    fffff880`031b5520 fffff800`02ac21f2 : fffff980`029f2c30 00000000`00000043 fffff980`029f2c10 fffffa80`05b92c10 : nt!IovCallDriver+0x566
    fffff880`031b5580 fffff800`02d93fb0 : fffffa80`05bf6f00 fffffa80`05bf6f00 00000000`00000001 00000000`0011cd78 : nt!IoPageRead+0x252
    fffff880`031b5610 fffff800`02dcbc75 : fffffa80`05bf6f20 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000022 fffff880`031b58c0 : nt!MiCreateImageFileMap+0x170
    fffff880`031b5840 fffff800`02dc1013 : fffff880`031b5aa0 00000000`00000000 fffff880`031b5d58 fffff880`031b5a98 : nt!MmCreateSection+0x7a9
    fffff880`031b5a50 fffff800`02acf993 : fffffa80`0462db60 fffff880`031b5cf8 fffff880`031b5ae8 00000000`00000000 : nt!NtCreateSection+0x162
    fffff880`031b5ad0 fffff800`02acbf30 : fffff800`02ea98b6 fffffa80`0462db60 fffff880`031b5d80 00000000`00000004 : nt!KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13
    fffff880`031b5cd8 fffff800`02ea98b6 : fffffa80`0462db60 fffff880`031b5d80 00000000`00000004 00000000`00000038 : nt!KiServiceLinkage
    fffff880`031b5ce0 fffff800`02ea9c7c : ffffffff`80000110 00000000`00100000 fffff880`031b5e00 fffff800`02ace93d : nt!MmCheckSystemImage+0x96
    fffff880`031b5e10 fffff800`02ea9e97 : ffffffff`80000110 00001f80`00000001 fffff8a0`0447e1d0 00000000`00000000 : nt!MiCreateSectionForDriver+0xcc
    fffff880`031b5ec0 fffff800`02eb573a : 00000000`00000000 fffff880`031b6080 fffffa80`0462db60 00000000`00000000 : nt!MiObtainSectionForDriver+0xd7
    fffff880`031b5f20 fffff800`02ea934f : fffff880`031b6080 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!MmLoadSystemImage+0x23a
    fffff880`031b6040 fffff800`02eb5ca8 : fffff880`0fe46000 fffff880`031b6218 00000000`00000000 fffff880`031b61f8 : nt!MiResolveImageReferences+0x2ff
    fffff880`031b6160 fffff800`02eb835d : fffff880`031b62d8 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!MmLoadSystemImage+0x7a8
    fffff880`031b6280 fffff800`02f4bc30 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 fffff880`031b6828 ffffffff`80000130 : nt!IopLoadDriver+0x44d
    fffff880`031b6550 fffff800`02d8a794 : fffff880`031b6860 00000000`00000000 00000000`c0000023 00000000`00000000 : nt!PipCallDriverAddDeviceQueryRoutine+0x390
    fffff880`031b6650 fffff800`02d8aaa2 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffff880`031b6860 fffff880`031b6828 : nt!RtlpCallQueryRegistryRoutine+0xf4
    fffff880`031b66d0 fffff800`02ebbbcc : fffffa80`055d7010 00000000`00000000 00000000`c0000034 fffff880`031b6828 : nt!RtlQueryRegistryValues+0x17e
    fffff880`031b67a0 fffff800`02ebd362 : fffffa80`055d6890 fffffa80`055d7010 00000000`00000001 fffff980`0000004c : nt!PipCallDriverAddDevice+0x45c
    fffff880`031b6950 fffff800`02ebd7fc : fffff800`02cd1d80 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000001 fffff800`02d3d840 : nt!PipProcessDevNodeTree+0x2b2
    fffff880`031b6bc0 fffff800`02bd2382 : 00000001`00000003 fffff800`02c755f8 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 : nt!PiProcessStartSystemDevices+0x7c
    fffff880`031b6c10 fffff800`02add961 : fffff800`02bd2080 fffff800`02ee6401 fffffa80`0462db00 89483824`448948f4 : nt!PnpDeviceActionWorker+0x302
    fffff880`031b6cb0 fffff800`02d74c06 : 0000b284`0fc00000 fffffa80`0462db60 00000000`00000080 fffffa80`039e7890 : nt!ExpWorkerThread+0x111
    fffff880`031b6d40 fffff800`02aaec26 : fffff880`02f64180 fffffa80`0462db60 fffff880`02f6efc0 4420468b`48502444 : nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x5a
    fffff880`031b6d80 00000000`00000000 : fffff880`031b7000 fffff880`031b1000 fffff880`031b4bb0 00000000`00000000 : nt!KxStartSystemThread+0x16
    
    
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  4
    
    SYMBOL_NAME:  Ntfs!NtfsNonCachedIo+23f
    
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    
    MODULE_NAME: Ntfs
    
    IMAGE_NAME:  Ntfs.sys
    
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  4a5bc14f
    
    STACK_COMMAND:  .cxr 0xfffff880031b4210 ; kb
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x24_Ntfs!NtfsNonCachedIo+23f
    
    BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x24_Ntfs!NtfsNonCachedIo+23f
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    For some reason, we are not getting all of the files generated by the tool in this tutorial:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-d...tructions.html. There are some files missing that would give us more information about your system. Please rerun the tool and upload all of the files generated.

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  8. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Righteo, i'll post it up when I get home.
    Cheers Carl.
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  9. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #9

    Very good. We will be here.
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  10. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Okay, here's the results form the checkdisk:
    Code:
    Checking file system on C:
    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    
    A disk check has been scheduled.
    Windows will now check the disk.                         
    
    CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 5)...
      94720 file records processed.                                          File verification completed.
      122 large file records processed.                                      0 bad file records processed.                                        2 EA records processed.                                              44 reparse records processed.                                       CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 5)...
      135966 index entries processed.                                         Index verification completed.
      0 unindexed files scanned.                                           0 unindexed files recovered.                                       CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 5)...
      94720 file SDs/SIDs processed.                                         Cleaning up 342 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 342 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 342 unused security descriptors.
    Security descriptor verification completed.
      20624 data files processed.                                            CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
      37402168 USN bytes processed.                                             Usn Journal verification completed.
    CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
      94704 files processed.                                                 File data verification completed.
    CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
      13274133 free clusters processed.                                         Free space verification is complete.
    Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
    
     102390245 KB total disk space.
      49043156 KB in 73516 files.
         49608 KB in 20625 indexes.
             0 KB in bad sectors.
        200945 KB in use by the system.
         65536 KB occupied by the log file.
      53096536 KB available on disk.
    
          4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
      25597561 total allocation units on disk.
      13274134 allocation units available on disk.
    
    Internal Info:
    00 72 01 00 c8 6f 01 00 ba c1 02 00 00 00 00 00  .r...o..........
    56 02 00 00 2c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  V...,...........
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
    
    Windows has finished checking your disk.
    Please wait while your computer restarts.
    Oh and Carl.
    CarlTR6 said:
    For some reason, we are not getting all of the files generated by the tool in this tutorial: https://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-d...tructions.html. There are some files missing that would give us more information about your system. Please rerun the tool and upload all of the files generated.
    Check the attachment, I just followed that procedure then.
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