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Windows 7: Windows 7 BSOD issues

28 Nov 2010   #51
Len19

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

it seems like a qpi voltage boost always fixes the problem, but the next day the issues return and i'll be forced to raise the qpi again and again. At the moment it's pretty stable at 1.4v, and i really don't want to have to raise it any higher.

Good thing the mobo has a led if the northbridge starts to get too hot.


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28 Nov 2010   #52
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Doesn't sound good.

I think you better RMA your RAM.

From Post #43
Quote:
If you can test with any other suitable RAM it would confirm the cause.
There is a high probability that it is the RAM failing but, the other possibilities are the HDD as mentioned, motherboard, PSU and due to the memory controller being on the CPU it is suspect as well.

This is how I would rank the possibilities.
Your RAM memory controller is integrated on the CPU, there is a possibility that the memory controller could be the cause but, doesn't happen that often.

I wouldn't raise the QPI/Vtt any higher, this can cause damage to the CPU.

Let us know what you decide to do.
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28 Nov 2010   #53
Len19

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

I'm...going to get a new set of ram the next memory related bsod i get, and then rma this set.
Probably Kingston HyperX 6gb DDR3 1600mhz. There are some pretty decent prices for it.

Would the Ram issues also cause various windows programs and services to randomly fail , I've also been having a issue with sometimes windows services *I have had the audio, internet services randomly just fail and i had to re-enable them*, video card drivers suddenly stop, and windows explorer, and especially windows desktop manager randomly crash and restart.

Might have mentioned it before but does having SLI change NB voltage requirements?
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28 Nov 2010   #54
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Good choice on the RAM, make sure it is compatible with your motherboard, check the mobo website for the compatible RAM list.

RAM errors can cause the issues you mentioned.

Haven't seen any issues with SLI voltages, you might check the Graphics Card forum for similar cases.

Let us know your progress.
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28 Nov 2010   #55
Len19

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Well what do you know, it went from stable in one night to bsod while playing a game+an additional 3-4 bsod's while windows was loading. Yep, going to see if i can get a new ram set soon.
And another bsod the instant i managed to get to the desktop.
hyperx seems to be on the compatibility list of gigabyte x-58a ud3r

Well that's unusual, the bsod while gaming was actually caused by a cdrom.sys, not the usual ntfs.sys or ntskrnl*
I also thought corsair ram was among the better ram companies, if ram turns out to be the problem *hopefully* i must be among the unlucky few to get a bad set.
hopefully because it would be a even bigger problem if it's a mobo/cpu/psu issue.

After reading another thread, someone getting ntoskrnl.exe bsod, and dxgmm1, both of which i've seen before, it ended with the person replacing ram and solving all issues. However i'm also getting ntfs which i'm not sure if it's 100% related to ram problems. I've run chkdsk /r overnight a few days ago.
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28 Nov 2010   #56
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Bugcheck 24, NTFS, can definitely be caused by RAM.
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29 Nov 2010   #57
Len19

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Ok, more bsods, i am hoping the new ram replacement will fix the bsods. Will be a long 4-7 business days. Pretty much tried everything outside hardware change.

It's almost amusing this pc crashes just as fast in safe mode as it does normally.
Some days it's just worse than other, today is one of those days where i can't even use it.
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29 Nov 2010   #58
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Corsair RAM is a good brand, I haven't had any problems with mine.

All RAM brands will have some issues, some more than others.

Are you in a position to RMA the Corsair RAM?
They are usually good at replacing it quickly.
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29 Nov 2010   #59
Len19

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
Corsair RAM is a good brand, I haven't had any problems with mine.

All RAM brands will have some issues, some more than others.

Are you in a position to RMA the Corsair RAM?
They are usually good at replacing it quickly.
They pretty much approved it about 1 hour after i asked for the rma.
I guess all companies can have duds sometimes, mine just happens to require perfect voltage and timing to run at all.

On a note for the kicks this is what i'm going to test a bit, although i have a feeling even if it works now it'll spontaneously fail later
Ram is at 1600mhz, surprisingly it hasn't crashed while loading windows, although according to blue screen view i got a memory management crash the instant i saved the bios settings. 10 minutes in no crash, it would be hilarious if somehow this completely fixes the error, but i wouldn't count on it. Of course if it does...i can cancel the replacement HyperX i just ordered, and the rma

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ............................. [23x]
CPU Frequency ................................ 3.06GHz (133x23)
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ........................... [All]
CPU Multi Threading ......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ..................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ...................... [Enabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ........................... [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ...................... [Auto]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Clock Ratio .............................. [x36]
QPI Link Speed .............................. 4.8GHz
Uncore Clock Ratio ........................... [x25]
Uncore Frequency ...................... 3200 MHz

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [133]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) .............. [100]


Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ............................ [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) ................ [Disabled]
Performance Enhance .................... [Extreme]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12.0]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................ 1600
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]
Profile DDR Voltage ................... 1.5V
Profile QPI Voltage ................... 1.75V
Channel Interleaving .................. [Auto]
Rank Interleaving ..................... [Auto]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ........................... [8]
tRCD ....................................... [9]
tRP ........................................ [8]
tRAS ....................................... [20]



##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ [Auto]
tRRD ....................................... [Auto]
tWTR ....................................... [Auto]
tWR ........................................ [Auto]
tWTP ....................................... [Auto]
tWL ........................................ [Auto]
tRFC ....................................... [Auto]
tRTP ....................................... [Auto]
tFAW ....................................... [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) ......................... [1]

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
B2B CAS Delay .............................. [Auto]
Round Trip Latency ......................... [Auto]

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ...................... [2T]
CPU Vcore .......................... 1.30625V [Normal]
QPI/VTT Voltage .................... 1.175V [1.320V]
CPU PLL ............................ 1.800V [Auto]

MCH/ICH
PCIE .............................. 1.500v [auto]
QPI PLL ........................... 1.100v [auto]
IOH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]
ICH I/O ............................ 1.500v [auto]
ICH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ....................... 1.500V [1.66 V]
DRAM Termination ................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
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29 Nov 2010   #60
Len19

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

So much for that, bsod ntfs.sys
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