why am i getting bsods on my new dell?

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  1. Posts : 2,588
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
       #11

    I would also see about installing drivers. Provided he doesn't do that for u. I know before I've had my comp crash before i found a faulty driver that only needed an updated driver
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  2. Posts : 35
    windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #12

    its just crazy how its brand new and has more problems than my 12 yr old pc.
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  3. JMH
    Posts : 7,952
    Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1.
       #13

    skald89 said:
    its just crazy how its brand new and has more problems than my 12 yr old pc.
    This sometimes happens with electronics. It is most infuriating we know.
    There are times when we need to grit our teeth & persevere.
    I have had my fair share of these "battles."{ one over the past few months with another manufacturer HP.} They can be won!
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  4. Posts : 35
    windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #14

    im going to try to get them to just give me a new one and demand an memory upgrade for the hassle but thats just wishful thinking.

    I really need to know why i get the bsod to argue with them
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  5. Posts : 35
    windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #15

    ordered it from dell.com on nov 28 and got it on the 6th or 7th.

    If I know why it happens I can tell them that the stuff they say is wrong or correct.
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  6. Posts : 5,056
    Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
       #16

    skald89 said:
    ordered it from dell.com on nov 28 and got it on the 6th or 7th.

    If I know why it happens I can tell them that the stuff they say is wrong or correct.
    See post #2 in this thread.
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  7. Posts : 507
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       #17

    skald89 said:
    ordered it from dell.com on nov 28 and got it on the 6th or 7th.
    If I know why it happens I can tell them that the stuff they say is wrong or correct.
    It seems Zone Alarm causing the problem.
    Try to uninstall it completely and see if the problem persist.
    Use this tools after uninstall ZA:
    http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/fr...cpes_clean.exe

    Code:
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    
    BugCheck 7F, {8, 80050031, 6f8, fffff80002e41ec0}
    
    Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KiDoubleFaultAbort+b2 )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    0: kd> !analyze -v
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP (7f)
    This means a trap occurred in kernel mode, and it's a trap of a kind
    that the kernel isn't allowed to have/catch (bound trap) or that
    is always instant death (double fault).  The first number in the
    bugcheck params is the number of the trap (8 = double fault, etc)
    Consult an Intel x86 family manual to learn more about what these
    traps are. Here is a *portion* of those codes:
    If kv shows a taskGate
            use .tss on the part before the colon, then kv.
    Else if kv shows a trapframe
            use .trap on that value
    Else
            .trap on the appropriate frame will show where the trap was taken
            (on x86, this will be the ebp that goes with the procedure KiTrap)
    Endif
    kb will then show the corrected stack.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 0000000000000008, EXCEPTION_DOUBLE_FAULT
    Arg2: 0000000080050031
    Arg3: 00000000000006f8
    Arg4: fffff80002e41ec0
    
    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x7f_8
    
    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    
    CURRENT_IRQL:  2
    
    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff80002e78ca9 to fffff80002e79740
    
    STACK_TEXT:  
    fffff800`00ba4d28 fffff800`02e78ca9 : 00000000`0000007f 00000000`00000008 00000000`80050031 00000000`000006f8 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
    fffff800`00ba4d30 fffff800`02e77172 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiBugCheckDispatch+0x69
    fffff800`00ba4e70 fffff800`02e41ec0 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiDoubleFaultAbort+0xb2
    fffff880`0c477dc0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!SeAccessCheckFromState+0x58
    
    
    STACK_COMMAND:  kb
    
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    nt!KiDoubleFaultAbort+b2
    fffff800`02e77172 90              nop
    
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  2
    
    SYMBOL_NAME:  nt!KiDoubleFaultAbort+b2
    
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    
    MODULE_NAME: nt
    
    IMAGE_NAME:  ntkrnlmp.exe
    
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  4c1c44a9
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x7f_8_nt!KiDoubleFaultAbort+b2
    
    BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x7f_8_nt!KiDoubleFaultAbort+b2
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
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  8. Posts : 35
    windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #18

    I ran whocrashed and it gave me this as the results


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Crash Dump Analysis
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Crash dump directory: C:\Windows\Minidump

    Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.


    On Thu 12/9/2010 6:12:38 AM GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\120910-26364-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x70740)
    Bugcheck code: 0x7F (0x8, 0x80050031, 0x6F8, 0xFFFFF80002E41EC0)
    Error: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
    product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    company: Microsoft Corporation
    description: NT Kernel & System
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.


    On Thu 12/9/2010 6:12:38 AM GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: aswtdi.sys (aswTdi+0x11A8)
    Bugcheck code: 0x7F (0x8, 0x80050031, 0x6F8, 0xFFFFF80002E41EC0)
    Error: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\aswtdi.sys
    product: avast! Antivirus System
    company: AVAST Software
    description: avast! TDI Filter Driver
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: aswtdi.sys (avast! TDI Filter Driver, AVAST Software).
    Google query: aswtdi.sys AVAST Software UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP





    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Conclusion
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    2 crash dumps have been found and analyzed. A third party driver has been identified to be causing system crashes on your computer. It is strongly suggested that you check for updates for these drivers on their company websites. Click on the links below to search with Google for updates for these drivers:

    aswtdi.sys (avast! TDI Filter Driver, AVAST Software)

    If no updates for these drivers are available, try searching with Google on the names of these drivers in combination the errors that have been reported for these drivers and include the brand and model name of your computer as well in the query. This often yields interesting results from discussions from users who have been experiencing similar problems.


    Read the topic general suggestions for troubleshooting system crashes for more information.

    Note that it's not always possible to state with certainty whether a reported driver is actually responsible for crashing your system or that the root cause is in another module. Nonetheless it's suggested you look for updates for the products that these drivers belong to and regularly visit Windows update or enable automatic updates for Windows. In case a piece of malfunctioning hardware is causing trouble, a search with Google on the bug check errors together with the model name and brand of your computer may help you investigate this further.



    funny how avast and zone alarm seem to be the reasons. Both run in the background when it happens and theyre suppose to help the computer, ironic.
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  9. Posts : 35
    windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Oh and additional to the bsod I have had similar situations were instead of it freezing up and going to the bsod it restarts itself.
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  10. Posts : 2,588
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
       #20

    DustSailor said:
    I would also see about installing drivers. Provided he doesn't do that for u. I know before I've had my comp crash before i found a faulty driver that only needed an updated driver
    skald89 said:
    I ran whocrashed and it gave me this as the results


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Crash Dump Analysis
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Crash dump directory: C:\Windows\Minidump

    Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.


    On Thu 12/9/2010 6:12:38 AM GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\120910-26364-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x70740)
    Bugcheck code: 0x7F (0x8, 0x80050031, 0x6F8, 0xFFFFF80002E41EC0)
    Error: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
    product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    company: Microsoft Corporation
    description: NT Kernel & System
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.


    On Thu 12/9/2010 6:12:38 AM GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: aswtdi.sys (aswTdi+0x11A8)
    Bugcheck code: 0x7F (0x8, 0x80050031, 0x6F8, 0xFFFFF80002E41EC0)
    Error: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\aswtdi.sys
    product: avast! Antivirus System
    company: AVAST Software
    description: avast! TDI Filter Driver
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: aswtdi.sys (avast! TDI Filter Driver, AVAST Software).
    Google query: aswtdi.sys AVAST Software UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP





    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Conclusion
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    2 crash dumps have been found and analyzed. A third party driver has been identified to be causing system crashes on your computer. It is strongly suggested that you check for updates for these drivers on their company websites. Click on the links below to search with Google for updates for these drivers:

    aswtdi.sys (avast! TDI Filter Driver, AVAST Software)

    If no updates for these drivers are available, try searching with Google on the names of these drivers in combination the errors that have been reported for these drivers and include the brand and model name of your computer as well in the query. This often yields interesting results from discussions from users who have been experiencing similar problems.


    Read the topic general suggestions for troubleshooting system crashes for more information.

    Note that it's not always possible to state with certainty whether a reported driver is actually responsible for crashing your system or that the root cause is in another module. Nonetheless it's suggested you look for updates for the products that these drivers belong to and regularly visit Windows update or enable automatic updates for Windows. In case a piece of malfunctioning hardware is causing trouble, a search with Google on the bug check errors together with the model name and brand of your computer may help you investigate this further.



    funny how avast and zone alarm seem to be the reasons. Both run in the background when it happens and theyre suppose to help the computer, ironic.
    Almost wanna say I told you so, cause I did
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