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Windows 7: A Rebuild Gone Bad

07 Jan 2011   #11
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Lollies,
It sounds like the start button is activating the mobo by the lights you say are on but what do you hear from the speaker? Please note the beeps you hear on the board or not. Something is pointing me to the GPU. Please fiddle with that connection and cable, swap the cable with another. Do you have any friends whom have an old GPU that you could swap for a test?


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07 Jan 2011   #12
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Lollies,
It sounds like the start button is activating the mobo by the lights you say are on but what do you hear from the speaker? Please note the beeps you hear on the board or not. Something is pointing me to the GPU. Please fiddle with that connection and cable, swap the cable with another. Do you have any friends whom have an old GPU that you could swap for a test?
I had that same suspicion - that's why I asked him to measure the voltages. I think you might be on the right track.
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07 Jan 2011   #13
TonyTiger2004

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Have you taken out your memory, unplugged anything not necessary?

Example. Take the side panel off. take out all memory but 1 stick and reseat that stick. Then unplug cd rom drives and any additional Hard drives. Basically you only want plugged in what you need. You can even unplug all audio, USB cables connected to external drives or Web cams etc. Can even unplug your keyboard and mouse.

Try that see if it boots on up. There have been many times when ive had to take out a stick of ram and reseat it boot it up with it in. Sometimes you may have a stick of ram gone bad which will prevent it from booting correctly. Your PSU may also be going out *hints* (unplugging anything not necessary)

I have had to rebuild system many times due to this type of behavior and one time it was the PSU going bad, the other 5 times it was a memory issue.


NOTE: If it boots up fine start plugging things in 1 at a time starting with your memory. Then peripherals then Extra HDD. and take note if it acts up again.

- Tony
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07 Jan 2011   #14
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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Is it possible the CPU blew out?
That is a tough call from here. It is, of course, possible - but not very likely. Only heat or too much electricity would do that. And from your data that sounds unlikely.
I am sure it is something very simple - question is what. Keep looking.
Just cleared the cmos, checked all cables, and checked the screws holding cpu cooler (Only hand tight). Still nothing, I'm hopeing it is something simple, how it could go from working fine to just having no display is beyond me. I think it might be the graphics card. It's running but maybe something blew out inside of it?
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07 Jan 2011   #15
TonyTiger2004

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
Is it possible the CPU blew out?
That is a tough call from here. It is, of course, possible - but not very likely. Only heat or too much electricity would do that. And from your data that sounds unlikely.
I am sure it is something very simple - question is what. Keep looking.
Just cleared the cmos, checked all cables, and checked the screws holding cpu cooler (Only hand tight). Still nothing, I'm hopeing it is something simple, how it could go from working fine to just having no display is beyond me. I think it might be the graphics card. It's running but maybe something blew out inside of it?
This motherboard have no onboard GPU? try my suggestion above. To me its sounds like your PSU is starting to go out. As you know your GPU is a Voltage HOG it requires the right amount of power to function correctly.

Try What i suggested and get back with an update.

- Tony
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07 Jan 2011   #16
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Lollies,
It sounds like the start button is activating the mobo by the lights you say are on but what do you hear from the speaker? Please note the beeps you hear on the board or not. Something is pointing me to the GPU. Please fiddle with that connection and cable, swap the cable with another. Do you have any friends whom have an old GPU that you could swap for a test?
None that are in the same state Best I could do it take it to a local shop that charges 80$ for their opinion...

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Lollies,
It sounds like the start button is activating the mobo by the lights you say are on but what do you hear from the speaker? Please note the beeps you hear on the board or not. Something is pointing me to the GPU. Please fiddle with that connection and cable, swap the cable with another. Do you have any friends whom have an old GPU that you could swap for a test?
I had that same suspicion - that's why I asked him to measure the voltages. I think you might be on the right track.
Its brand new too I'm just gunna have to track one down some how.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TonyTiger2004 View Post
Have you taken out your memory, unplugged anything not necessary?

Example. Take the side panel off. take out all memory but 1 stick and reseat that stick. Then unplug cd rom drives and any additional Hard drives. Basically you only want plugged in what you need. You can even unplug all audio, USB cables connected to external drives or Web cams etc. Can even unplug your keyboard and mouse.

Try that see if it boots on up. There have been many times when ive had to take out a stick of ram and reseat it boot it up with it in. Sometimes you may have a stick of ram gone bad which will prevent it from booting correctly. Your PSU may also be going out *hints* (unplugging anything not necessary)

I have had to rebuild system many times due to this type of behavior and one time it was the PSU going bad, the other 5 times it was a memory issue.


NOTE: If it boots up fine start plugging things in 1 at a time starting with your memory. Then peripherals then Extra HDD. and take note if it acts up again.

- Tony
I'll give it a try.
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07 Jan 2011   #17
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Don't dispair this is the fun of computing ??......with luck it's something simple like a connection. At the very least you will be able to test all options before taking to a repair test bed. Keep smiling and learning !
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07 Jan 2011   #18
TonyTiger2004

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Don't dispair this is the fun of computing ??......with luck it's something simple like a connection. At the very least you will be able to test all options before taking to a repair test bed. Keep smiling and learning !
Indeed when it comes to computers there isnt anything your not capable of fixing yourself, ive worked on computers for hours before i found the solution. Sometimes you must walk away and have a breather.

- Tony
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07 Jan 2011   #19
St4vr0s

Windows 7 Professional X64
 
 

I had this happen to one of my machines at work the other day. I used a multi meter and found out is was the PSU.

When I did reasearch it seemed that from working to not working (not even POST) is often the PSU or the Mobo, surley if the GPU was the issue there would be some form of POST?
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07 Jan 2011   #20
TonyTiger2004

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by St4vr0s View Post
I had this happen to one of my machines at work the other day. I used a multi meter and found out is was the PSU.

When I did reasearch it seemed that from working to not working (not even POST) is often the PSU or the Mobo, surley if the GPU was the issue there would be some form of POST?
Agreed, normally its 3 things, Motherboard, PSU or Memory either reseated or replaced.
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