A Rebuild Gone Bad

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  1. Posts : 11,424
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       #51

    Along Tony's line a good sniff of the components can also give hint of burning. My mobo has a 3 year warranty I would hope ASUS would be similar?
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  2. Posts : 398
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #52

    Lollies said:
    TonyTiger2004 said:
    I still don't think its the motherboard, Problem is you don't have any extra computer parts to try. No extra GPU no extra RAM. So it gets hard troubleshooting something like this without some extra computer parts. You could always take the motherboard out, look for broken solder joints and anything burnt on the board itself. Usually you will see some visual evidence but not always.

    And if indeed your MOBO is out of warranty, i would do just that. Upgrade the motherboard and memory. Would be your perfect chance.

    - Tony
    I've narrowed it down to the mobo of GPU, I would test the GPU with a 9800 GX2 but my frirnd won't let me borrow his since he is "uneasy" thinking it will reset his whole computer so yeahI have no extra GPU. I took almost everything apart last night as saw now visible evidence as to why the mobo would be damaged in anyway.

    I did wanna upgrade anyways but I was gunna wait a little while till winter was over for my snowboarding costs but it is what it is I guess.

    Note that to see anything wrong with the motherboard it will more then likely be on the backside of the motherboard where all the solder joints are, so really if your planning on just upgrading it yank it out and take a look at it. You may discover something simple or discover the true reason things are going nuts on you.

    - Tony
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  3. Posts : 11,424
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       #53

    We had a OP here just the other day realize just before starting up the build that they had forgotten to use standoff's.......ouch. You could have a stand off in the wrong place and cause a issue? Just saying.
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  4. Posts : 398
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #54

    linnemeyerhere said:
    We had a OP here just the other day realize just before starting up the build that they had forgotten to use standoff's.......ouch. You could have a stand off in the wrong place and cause a issue? Just saying.
    Whew that would be horrible I tend to take my time when im building a system, try to double check and double check things. Too much money goes into computer builds to rush through things and just throw it together.
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  5. Posts : 11,424
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       #55

    I in fact like to torque those little suckers down. Learned the hard way when I went to tighten my mobo down and had several standoffs loose. It was a funny read though when the OP said he was wondering what this little bag full of parts was for and then it came to him to research it before booting up........smart man!
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  6. Posts : 398
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #56

    linnemeyerhere said:
    I in fact like to torque those little suckers down. Learned the hard way when I went to tighten my mobo down and had several standoffs loose. It was a funny read though when the OP said he was wondering what this little bag full of parts was for and then it came to him to research it before booting up........smart man!
    Whew least he did not fire it up before realizing what he had done :) That would not have been funny. All of his components would have been shot.
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  7. Posts : 11,424
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       #57

    Smoked in one punch of the power button ! Can you imagine all your new trick components, CPU, GPU, sound card, PSU everything.......poof.....waaa happened ?
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  8. Posts : 59
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & OSX 10.6
       #58

    linnemeyerhere said:
    Don't dispair this is the fun of computing ??......with luck it's something simple like a connection. At the very least you will be able to test all options before taking to a repair test bed. Keep smiling and learning !
    Dude totally +1!

    I have Been Super upside-down in builds that just have the oddest Gremlins no one could finger out... A friend of mine once told me that if i ever started a Paranormal Computer research and repair company, He'd be the primary investor... I've had some major setbacks and issues that, once I finally solved them, Made me feel a million times better knowing that It was something I could handle... After it's fixed you'll look back later on and be glad you learned a hell of a lot, finished a task you set out to do (even if it tried to kill you..) and thank science it's over and behind you! If that wasn't at least part of the reason we do all these builds and clocks and benchmarks and Tweaks... might as well go buy a mac.. or a, dell......

    Hope this encourages someone, hopefully, OP...

    Oh P.S. a decent ATX 2.0 PSU checker, Multimeter, and basic understanding of your power loads, including maybe using an online PSU power consumption guesstimator site like eXtreme Power Supply Calculator or similar...

    Also Remember with PSUs, and Everything Electrical, the further away from 100% load, (ie, the more headroom you have,) the higher efficiency, lower operating temperature, Exponentially less stress, and drastically longer life the unit will see...

    So When Shopping for a PSU, if you decide that your Max Wattage peaks at say, 735w, don't buy a 750w, push for at least 20-25% extra headroom, Minimum. An 850w is safer, 1kw if you can afford it, it's a lot of reliability you can build on top of a good rig, besides, who knows what you may add or upgrade 2-12 months from now?

    enjoy, and Happy Benching'1!

    -TWEEK!!!
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  9. Posts : 302
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #59

    linnemeyerhere said:
    We had a OP here just the other day realize just before starting up the build that they had forgotten to use standoff's.......ouch. You could have a stand off in the wrong place and cause a issue? Just saying.
    Not sure what the standoff's are, I looked it up and it seems fine but maybe I did do something wrong? It wasn't a very good description as to what they are. I copied my old build to a T as far as internals go, so in theory, it should be no different.

    TonyTiger2004 said:
    linnemeyerhere said:
    I in fact like to torque those little suckers down. Learned the hard way when I went to tighten my mobo down and had several standoffs loose. It was a funny read though when the OP said he was wondering what this little bag full of parts was for and then it came to him to research it before booting up........smart man!
    Whew least he did not fire it up before realizing what he had done :) That would not have been funny. All of his components would have been shot.
    Mine aren't and I've started it several times but maybe its causing the mobo to falter?

    Tweek said:
    linnemeyerhere said:
    Don't dispair this is the fun of computing ??......with luck it's something simple like a connection. At the very least you will be able to test all options before taking to a repair test bed. Keep smiling and learning !
    Dude totally +1!

    I have Been Super upside-down in builds that just have the oddest Gremlins no one could finger out... A friend of mine once told me that if i ever started a Paranormal Computer research and repair company, He'd be the primary investor... I've had some major setbacks and issues that, once I finally solved them, Made me feel a million times better knowing that It was something I could handle... After it's fixed you'll look back later on and be glad you learned a hell of a lot, finished a task you set out to do (even if it tried to kill you..) and thank science it's over and behind you! If that wasn't at least part of the reason we do all these builds and clocks and benchmarks and Tweaks... might as well go buy a mac.. or a, dell......

    Hope this encourages someone, hopefully, OP...

    Oh P.S. a decent ATX 2.0 PSU checker, Multimeter, and basic understanding of your power loads, including maybe using an online PSU power consumption guesstimator site like eXtreme Power Supply Calculator or similar...

    Also Remember with PSUs, and Everything Electrical, the further away from 100% load, (ie, the more headroom you have,) the higher efficiency, lower operating temperature, Exponentially less stress, and drastically longer life the unit will see...

    So When Shopping for a PSU, if you decide that your Max Wattage peaks at say, 735w, don't buy a 750w, push for at least 20-25% extra headroom, Minimum. An 850w is safer, 1kw if you can afford it, it's a lot of reliability you can build on top of a good rig, besides, who knows what you may add or upgrade 2-12 months from now?

    enjoy, and Happy Benching'1!

    -TWEEK!!!
    The next PSU was a 1200, maybe I should have just gone with that, my last one was a 1000. I downsized to a 850, everyone on the forums assured me it would be fine.
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  10. Posts : 11,424
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       #60

    Tweek,
    You re-enforce my logic, just like a stereo amplifier you are much more likely to fry your speakers with a low power amp over driven than with a high power one. Computers are no different and I think that the PSU and a great case are the two best purchases you can make when starting in the home build game. Choose wisely and tons of issues are solved. Choose poorly and well you know.....heat, durability, expandability and power delivery all suffer
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