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Windows 7: BSOD Crash on New Build

19 Mar 2011   #31
DeanP

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7
 
 

Running Graphics Card at 105 degrees Celsius is really HOT! Open up your computer case and make sure everything is OK. (i.e: no dusts, nothing clogged up)

If you have an old graphics card - try that.



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19 Mar 2011   #32
awinterton

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

I thought that sounded a bit hot. No dust, no clogs, plenty of room for circulation. The case has 120mm 2 fans, one on the side (sucking), another on the rear (blowing). The graphics card is second hand... tried to help out a friend... I'm getting the feeling he might have screwed me over. Unfortunately I don't have another card to try and there's no integrated graphics.

After running furmark for 4 minutes, the point at which the GPU temp maxes out, system temps read as follows:
Temp1: 62C
Temp2: 40C
Core 0: 49C
Core 1: 41C
Core 2: 42C
Core 3: 42C
HD0: 36C
HD1: 38C
GPU: 105C

So aside from the graphics card, everything looks normal to me except maybe Temp1. I'm not sure where this is, best I can figure its a temp sensor built into the motherboard.
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19 Mar 2011   #33
awinterton

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

and yet again. here's another...

This time the computer was sitting idle.
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20 Mar 2011   #34
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Getting 105c on a Graphics card test is hot, but not unheard of. The max temp limit is about 115-120c on most cards, need to check your documentation, I wouldn't be comfortable running very long above 90c.

Have you OC'ed the graphics card?
What temp does it run at in your most demanding situation?
If it is staying below 80-90c in you heaviest useage I would look at this after the BSoD problem is under control.

What case cooling do you have?
How many fans, where are they located, which direction are they blowing?
Are they all working?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by awinterton View Post
Memory Diagnostics: I just did this. Got new ram from the stuff I RMA'd. Put it in and bsod... ran memtest86+ for 8+ passes on each stick independently. No problems on any of them. The link for memory diagnostics recommended just what I did. Did I miss something?

I'm about to start the HDD Diagnostic now.
Your issues could very well be due to RAM and/or RAM settings.

Did you run memtest86+ with all four RAM cards installed?
You should always do this after the individual RAM cards are tested. If they all pass, they possibly are good, if they won't pass when all are installed you need to adjust some settings.
Actually, there is no 100% RAM test. I have seen RAM pass memtest86+, which is a very good test, a couple of times and ultimately the RAM has been proven the culprit.

When you have 8GB RAM, even 4GB sometimes, you will likely need to bump your NB (memory controller) voltage, and sometimes your RAM voltage also.

Check your BIOS and post the MCH Core (NB voltage) and RAM voltage in your next reply.
MCH core on page 40 in your motherboard manual.

Can you download CPUZ and post a snip of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory, and SPD tabs.

For posting the information , enter 'Snipping tool' in the Start button > Search box, hit enter. Select the area you want to post and save to a convenient place.
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Have you been checking your temperatures?

Use Real Temp or Speed Fan , run one of these and check the CPU temps when at idle, under load and/or testing.
Let us know the minimum and maximum temps you get.
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20 Mar 2011   #35
awinterton

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

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Have you OC'ed the graphics card?
I have not. I bought it off a friend who was in need of cash. Stupid idea... now I'm having problems and said friend is no where to be found. What he did with it, I'm not sure, or even if the settings carry over once its put in a different system. He guaranteed it worked perfectly.

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What temp does it run at in your most demanding situation?
I haven't really been able to put it in a demanding situation yet since it keeps crashing. At idle it reports 64C. When I watch a movie full screen it goes up to 66C. I'm downloading COD4 right now. When its done and installs correctly I'll let you know what it does then.

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How many fans, where are they located, which direction are they blowing?
There are 5 fans. One on the CPU (pulls air off the CPU and pushes in out into the case), another in the bottom of the power supply (pulls air from outside the case, through the power supply and then out into the case), another on the rear of the case just below the power supply (pulls air from the case and pushes it outside, another on the side panel (pulls air from outside the case in), and of course the one built into the GPU. All appear to be running at full speed or close to all the time.

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Did you run memtest86+ with all four RAM cards installed?
I haven't run them cumulatively. I will do that. They all passed independently so I figured they would when put together, but I can see you're point. I guess it doesn't always work like that.

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Check your BIOS and post the MCH Core (NB voltage) and RAM voltage in your next reply.
I'm not super familiar with Bios settings, so I usually leave them to defaults or auto.
This is everything under Mother Board Voltage Control
Load-Line Calibration (disabled)
CPU Vcore is 1.28750V (set to Auto)
CPU Tremination is 1.200V (set to Auto)
CPU PLL is 1.500V (set to Auto)
CPU Reference is .760V (set to Auto)

MCH Core is 1.100V (set to Auto)
MCH Reference is .760V (set to Auto)
MCH/DRAM Reference is .750V (set to Auto)
ICH I/O is 1.500V (set to Auto)
ICH Core is 1.100V (set to Auto)

DRAM Voltage is 1.500V (set to Auto)
DRAM Termination is .750V (set to Auto)
Ch-A Data VRef is .750V (set to Auto)
Ch-B Data VRef is .750V (set to Auto)
Ch-A Address VRef is .750V (set to Auto)
Ch-B Address VRef is .750V (set to Auto)

I wouldn't know how to overclock my computer even if I wanted to.

I'll get the rest of the system temps and screenshots once the computer reboots.
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20 Mar 2011   #36
awinterton

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote:
Can you download CPUZ and post a snip of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory, and SPD tabs.
Here's the CPU:
Attachment 144666

Here's the Mainboard:
Attachment 144667

Here's the Memory:
Attachment 144668

Here's the SPD:
Attachment 144669

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Have you been checking your temperatures?
I use SpeedFan. I don't monitor it too closely, but right now (pretty much idle) they are as follows: --> (under load using furmark)
Temp 1: 52c --> 63
Temp 2: 32c --> 40
Core 0: 38c --> 49
Core 1: 34c --> 41
Core 2: 37c --> 42
Core 3: 37c --> 42
HD0: 33c --> 33
HD1: 35c --> 35
GPU: 59c --> 105
It took 8 minutes for the GPU temp to level off.


I've also had 3 bsod's today. I've attached their files as well.
Attachment 144665
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21 Mar 2011   #37
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Good information.

Are the BIOS settings for DRAM timings all in 'Auto'?

Go to your BIOS and change the 'MCH Core' voltage to 1.200V.
This is the memory controller voltage, when you have 2GB RAM cards or 4GB or more of RAM you need to increase the memory controller voltage.
Will depend on your motherboard and BIOS version, most boards need this adjustment with 4GB RAM or more.

Then run memtest86+ with all four RAM cards installed.
If you get any errors you can stop the test.

Let us know the results.
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08 Apr 2011   #38
awinterton

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Sorry everybody for the delay in a followup. Finals and projects are in full swing and are occupying all of my time. I'll update the thread once the semester is over in about 2 weeks. By the way of a minor update, I changed the MCH core voltage to 1.200 as instructed. It seems to be a lot more stable, but still crashes (maybe once every 4 days rather than once every 2 or 3 hours). I haven't had a chance to run memtest again.

More to come in 2 weeks.
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08 Apr 2011   #39
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Since that has helped, you need to slowly bump the MCH core voltage up, by very small amounts until it is stable.

Next voltage to try 1.220v.

You shouldn't need to go past 1.260v.

Let us know the stability, and voltage setting.
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