BSOD - On Random Startup, please help.

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  1. Posts : 8
    Windows 7 64bit
       #1

    BSOD - On Random Startup, please help.


    Hello, I have been having this BSOD issue lately and I dont know what has casued this to start, but I do suspect it is the video card. The card is a MSI Hawk 460 and its brand new but the issues if I recall correctly didnt start happening till it was installed.

    So the problem is randomly I will boot up the PC and it will get to the black windows logo screen then crash and reboot. It has done it now in the last couple of days on id say 20 bootup's, it would crash half the time.

    I did a fresh install of the OS Win7 64 with updated drivers but I used nvidia drivers that were older 260 I believe and not 266. I thought maybe the drivers were the problem.

    Anyways please any help would be nice b/c I dont know if its a software thing or a hardware and I dont want to waste money on replacing parts that are not the problem . I dont understand these dump files or anything but I did record and follow the posting FAQ so I could get the correct help.

    Thank you for your time.

    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 1e
    BCP1: FFFFFFFFC0000005
    BCP2: FFFFF88003DFAB20
    BCP3: 0000000000000000
    BCP4: 00000000000001BC
    OS Version: 6_1_7600
    Service Pack: 0_0
    Product: 768_1

    Files that help describe the problem:
    C:\Windows\Minidump\021111-21777-01.dmp
    C:\Users\Jason\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-24585-0.sysdata.xml
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  2. Posts : 2,566
    Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7
       #2

    Hello and welcome to Seven Forums,
    - Boot into safe mode with networking
    - Uninstall the nVidia Drivers
    - Use driver sweeper to remove leftover nVidia display driver files Guru3D - Driver Sweeper
    - Install the latest drivers Drivers - Download NVIDIA Drivers
    - Reboot into normal mode

    Also, update this most cause driver.
    Code:
    ASACPI.sys Mon Mar 28 15:30:36 2005
    The 2005 version of this driver is a known BSOD cause.
    Please visit this link: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support- download_item_mkt
    Scroll down to the Utilities category, then scroll down to the "ATK0110 driver for WindowsXP/Vista/Windows 7 32&64-bit " (it's about the 11th item down).
    Download and install it.
    Go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers to check and make sure that the ASACPI.sys file is date stamped from 2009 or 2010 (NOT 2005).
    Also, update this driver.
    yk62x64.sys Tue Feb 24 04:02:27 2009 - Marvell Yukon Networking
    http://www.marvell.com/support.html
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  3. Posts : 8
    Windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thank you for taking the time to help.

    So I went and downloaded the ASACPI.sys file "ATK0110 driver for Windows 7"
    It now shows...
    Created: Thursday, ‎May ‎14, ‎2009, ‏‎10:26:24 AM
    Modified: ‎Today, ‎February ‎11, ‎2011, ‏‎2 minutes ago
    What is this file for? Im curious.

    I also downloaded the Marvel file "
    yk62x64.sys" and its says...
    Created: ‎‎Thursday, ‎September ‎23, ‎2010, ‏‎2:11:28 AM
    Modified: ‎‎Thursday, ‎September ‎23, ‎2010, ‏‎2:11:28 AM
    Again, is this for the ethernet? Im curious and want to learn more.

    Ill try to see if I can get it to BSOD and ill report back.

    Also, I am curious if there was anything in those files I uploaded that would lead to any type of error on the video card or the drivers? B/C this problem if I recall right started when I had installed this MSI Hawk. I did a fresh install of windows when I installed it to minimize any conflicts.

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  4. Posts : 2,566
    Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7
       #4

    Those two files are fine, you just updated them. The graphic drivers could be corrupted and needed to be re install.

    The Marvell is for your Ethernet.
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  5. Posts : 8
    Windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Ok I hope I updated the Marvel correctly. I downloaded the setup and ran the the setup and it did some stuff and rebooted. It was the 2nd option they gave me out of the 3 Windows Setup Installer (32- and 64-bit) for Yukon Controllers.

    How could I tell if its a hardware issue with the video card? I can the MSI Kombuster benchmark program over night awhile ago and it did not crash or anything, it did what it was suppose to do I guess. But, when I boot into windows at the startup screen sometimes the graphics get corrupt. It did it also when I was doing a fresh install of Win7 2 weeks ago, thats why I thought it is the video card causing the BSOD.

    (edit - Kinda like this but not to as bad http://www.pchelpforum.com/graphics/41714-graphic-card-problems-advice-please.html)
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  6. Posts : 2,566
    Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7
       #6

    I would test the graphics card with Fumark: Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark
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  7. Posts : 8
    Windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Ok so I am running the program and have now for an hour now and I havent noticed anything bad or artifacts.
    All I have left to run is Prime95 and I plan to over night when im sleeping.

    Any other conclusions? im willing to try anything.
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  8. Posts : 2,566
    Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7
       #8

    Run Prime95.
       Tip
    Run the Blend, Small FFTs, and Large FFTs Prime95 tests: CPU - Stress Test with Prime95
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  9. Posts : 8
    Windows 7 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #9

    The never ending BSOD


    Well, It BSOD again on me today booting up form a cold state.
    I also ran memtest and prime95 yesterday for 7hours each and nothing came back with errors.

    Details from EventViewer...

    Log Name: System
    Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
    Date: 2/12/2011 3:23:39 PM
    Event ID: 41
    Task Category: (63)
    Level: Critical
    Keywords: (2)
    User: SYSTEM
    Computer: Jason-PC
    Description:
    The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
    <EventID>41</EventID>
    <Version>2</Version>
    <Level>1</Level>
    <Task>63</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8000000000000002</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-02-12T23:23:39.112813300Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10001</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Jason-PC</Computer>
    <Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data Name="BugcheckCode">278</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0xfffffa80061a4010</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0xfffff88003b34e64</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x2</Data>
    <Data Name="SleepInProgress">false</Data>
    <Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Also, attached the other files.
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  10. Posts : 2,566
    Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7
       #10

    I wonder if this is coming from your graphics card - the dump blames them.
    Test the graphics card with Furmark: Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark

    If any errors occur in Furmark (such as artifacts), replace your graphics card or use onboard graphics.

    Understanding STOP 0x116: STOP 0x116: VIDEO_TDR_ERROR troubleshooting

    Usual causes: Video driver, overheating, bad video card, ?BIOS, ?Power to card (see Significant Posts section below)
    Code:
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    
    BugCheck 116, {fffffa80061a4010, fffff88003b34e64, 0, 2}
    
    Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys, Win32 error 0n2
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvlddmkm.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nvlddmkm.sys
    Probably caused by : nvlddmkm.sys ( nvlddmkm+12ee64 )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    0: kd> !analyze -v
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE (116)
    Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: fffffa80061a4010, Optional pointer to internal TDR recovery context (TDR_RECOVERY_CONTEXT).
    Arg2: fffff88003b34e64, The pointer into responsible device driver module (e.g. owner tag).
    Arg3: 0000000000000000, Optional error code (NTSTATUS) of the last failed operation.
    Arg4: 0000000000000002, Optional internal context dependent data.
    
    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    
    
    FAULTING_IP: 
    nvlddmkm+12ee64
    fffff880`03b34e64 4883ec28        sub     rsp,28h
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  GRAPHICS_DRIVER_TDR_FAULT
    
    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x116
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    
    CURRENT_IRQL:  0
    
    STACK_TEXT:  
    fffff880`031829c8 fffff880`04887ef8 : 00000000`00000116 fffffa80`061a4010 fffff880`03b34e64 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
    fffff880`031829d0 fffff880`04887c02 : fffff880`03b34e64 fffffa80`061a4010 fffffa80`05ef5d50 fffffa80`05e98320 : dxgkrnl!TdrBugcheckOnTimeout+0xec
    fffff880`03182a10 fffff880`0492ef07 : fffffa80`061a4010 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`05ef5d50 fffffa80`05e98320 : dxgkrnl!TdrIsRecoveryRequired+0x1a2
    fffff880`03182a40 fffff880`04958b75 : 00000000`ffffffff 00000000`000003c3 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000002 : dxgmms1!VidSchiReportHwHang+0x40b
    fffff880`03182b20 fffff880`049572bb : 00000000`00000102 00000000`00000000 00000000`000003c3 00000000`00000000 : dxgmms1!VidSchiCheckHwProgress+0x71
    fffff880`03182b50 fffff880`0492a2c6 : ffffffff`ff676980 fffffa80`05e98320 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : dxgmms1!VidSchiWaitForSchedulerEvents+0x1fb
    fffff880`03182bf0 fffff880`04956e7a : 00000000`00000000 00000000`0000000f 00000000`00000080 fffffa80`049cb168 : dxgmms1!VidSchiScheduleCommandToRun+0x1da
    fffff880`03182d00 fffff800`02f787c6 : 00000000`027a36c0 fffffa80`05eb8360 fffffa80`0396db30 fffffa80`05eb8360 : dxgmms1!VidSchiWorkerThread+0xba
    fffff880`03182d40 fffff800`02cb3c26 : fffff880`009e9180 fffffa80`05eb8360 fffff880`009f3f40 fffff880`01233534 : nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x5a
    fffff880`03182d80 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KxStartSystemThread+0x16
    
    
    STACK_COMMAND:  .bugcheck ; kb
    
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    nvlddmkm+12ee64
    fffff880`03b34e64 4883ec28        sub     rsp,28h
    
    SYMBOL_NAME:  nvlddmkm+12ee64
    
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    
    MODULE_NAME: nvlddmkm
    
    IMAGE_NAME:  nvlddmkm.sys
    
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  4cb9dd0e
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x116_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys
    
    BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x116_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
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