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Windows 7: BSOD 0x0007A kernel_inpage_err, 0x00F4 and operating system not found

14 Jul 2011   #11
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by srinpraveen View Post
Okay I will increase the size of the paging file.

Regarding temperature difference between full operationa and idle operation, when the laptop is idle it has a more or less steady temperature of 52 to 55 degree celcius (around 130 degree farenheit).

When the laptop is fully loaded with different applications running concurrently such a virus scan running, a video playing from vlc player, a pdf opened, mozilla running, a vmware virtual machine running etc, then the temperature goes to as high as 69 to 71 degree celcius. (around 160 degree farenheit)

So does this point to anything or is it normal?

Sounds ok-ish... In a clean LT with good airflow, I'd expect lower idle temps for a CPU... but you higher temps should not be a problem.
However, this is only the CPU. Can you see other temps?

Try: CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting


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14 Jul 2011   #12
srinpraveen

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

wow @Mdvd, looks like we have a telepathy...LOL....Cuz I too use CPUID monitor and I just love its interface and its pretty user-friendly as compared to speedfan. I have posted a screenshot of it in action when the laptop is not exactly loaded with applications but in a normal steady state. There are two more temperatures as you can see in the screenshot about which I don't exactly know what they indicate and what exactly we can hypothesize from that. But anyway I have enclosed a screenshot of the CPUID monitor in action. Check it.

And the high temperatures maybe because of the amd athelon 64 bit core I guess. Cuz usually amd cores are alleged to heat up more than their competitor intel's corresponding cores such as the i series.
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14 Jul 2011   #13
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

OK, this looks fine. So temps don't seem to be the prob. Lets see if you get a dump file now that you've increased pagefile.....
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14 Jul 2011   #14
srinpraveen

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Okay...I will wait till the next bsod occurs...I have set the system to automatically restart upon system failure from the advanced settings and followed all that is mentioned on that thread. SO hopefully I will get a dump file. Lets see..I will keep you posted once I get it.

By the way, I also have bluescreen viewer of nirsoft and also another application called "whocrashed" which automatically reads and displays all the dump files in the system.

By the way, I have a quick question. Are Bsod errors random or have a regular pattern of occurrence? Cuz for the past few days I had 4 bsods per day. And today I had just one bsod since morning and its close to midnight here now. So I guess thats just a single bsod today. So does this indicate that things are improving by any chance? Is there a point wherein the bsods are gradually going to subside and soon gone altogether? Has this happened before to anyone? Because I am being optimistic and I will be happy if such a kind of thing comes true.
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14 Jul 2011   #15
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by srinpraveen View Post
Okay...I will wait till the next bsod occurs...I have set the system to automatically restart upon system failure from the advanced settings and followed all that is mentioned on that thread. SO hopefully I will get a dump file. Lets see..I will keep you posted once I get it.

By the way, I also have bluescreen viewer of nirsoft and also another application called "whocrashed" which automatically reads and displays all the dump files in the system.

By the way, I have a quick question. Are Bsod errors random or have a regular pattern of occurrence? Cuz for the past few days I had 4 bsods per day. And today I had just one bsod since morning and its close to midnight here now. So I guess thats just a single bsod today. So does this indicate that things are improving by any chance? Is there a point wherein the bsods are gradually going to subside and soon gone altogether? Has this happened before to anyone? Because I am being optimistic and I will be happy if such a kind of thing comes true.
Sorry to say but they are not random.... there is a definite link to something that is wrong somewhere, be it HW or drivers or temp's (which is related to HW) or, even PSU and failing external power... it might seem random to the user but in reality there is always a very exact combination of things that cause/trigger a problem.
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15 Jul 2011   #16
srinpraveen

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

@Mvdb,
surprisingly, there wasn't a single bsod yesterday despite working in the normal mode for long hours. Nevertheless, I will have to observe it for a larger time than this though. But looks like things are coming back to normal.

There were lots of Microsoft Updates getting installed after clicking the shut down button everytime. And I suspect that maybe a missing update might be the causing factor of the bsods that came up. But am not sure. Its a rather incorrect hypothesis at this point.

Anyway I will observe this for a few more days and get back.
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16 Jul 2011   #17
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by srinpraveen View Post
@Mvdb,
surprisingly, there wasn't a single bsod yesterday despite working in the normal mode for long hours. Nevertheless, I will have to observe it for a larger time than this though. But looks like things are coming back to normal.

There were lots of Microsoft Updates getting installed after clicking the shut down button everytime. And I suspect that maybe a missing update might be the causing factor of the bsods that came up. But am not sure. Its a rather incorrect hypothesis at this point.

Anyway I will observe this for a few more days and get back.

Good luck! Hope it will be a clean run!
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17 Jul 2011   #18
srinpraveen

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

@MvdB,
the bsod returns!! The bsod never fails to pop up if I use video chat in skype. Today I was video chatting with a couple of friends on skype. And VOILA! The bsod popped up, blue screen for a flash, system restarts, comes up with a black screen saying "operating system not found". Then I manually power off, power on, again the OS not found error, once again power off, power again and the system starts normally.

Just for your info: the paging file size initially was 3740GB. I changed it later to 6140GB in fact and there is no reason why the dumpfile should fail to get registered. But alas! I still don't see any folder by the name of "Minidump" and neither do any *.dmp files exist on the system.

This thing beats me. I really don't understand why the dump file is not getting created though the paging file is so big now. And since as the instructions mentioned in one of the links asked me to restart the system upon system failure, I was compelled to do so. But in the process, I could not catch a glimpse of the bsod that flashed by today. But I still strongly suspect that it is the same old kernel_inpage_error.

As you said, there is definitely some sequence of activity that promptly triggers the bsod to come to life. And I think if I video chat for a while in skype, that will be the perfect recipe to simulate a bsod almost certainly. LOL.

Any solutions? I will be more than happy to get a dump file that dump the hard disk of the vaio.

Do you reckon I uncheck the restart system on failure option so that I can catch a glimpse of the bsod error code?
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17 Jul 2011   #19
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

We need a dumpfile. Check these pre-requisites for creating a dump please:
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Page file must be on OS drive
- Page file base allocation size must be > than installed physical RAM
- Windows Error Reporting (WER) system service should be set to MANUAL
- Set page file to system managed, OS drive
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17 Jul 2011   #20
srinpraveen

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

I have enclosed my reply in bold for readabilty.


Page file must be on OS drive
- Page file base allocation size must be > than installed physical RAM
Page file is on the OS drive which is C drive in my case. Installed Physical RAM is 4000MB out of which usable RAM is 3740MB in my system. I have changed the page file size to 6144MB which should be sufficient.
- Windows Error Reporting (WER) system service should be set to MANUAL
Where do I check this as to whether my system has this as manual or not?
- Set page file to system managed, OS drive
If page file size is set to system managed, then the system only allocates 3740MB of paging file size which as per our discussion was suspected to be less for the creation of a dump file. So I had to change the options in the performance tab to custom size and key in 6144MB. But even if the page file was system managed as it was previously, there was no dump file showing up with the system paging file size.
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