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Windows 7: Windows 7 64 bit crashes.

22 Jul 2009   #21
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dook View Post
Well I only have 2 PCI slots, the rest are PCIe

It's in the second at the minute so I'll give it a swap around.

I've had the soundcard for maybe 4 months now and it runs fine on Vista / XP which is why i can't understand why Windows 7 has a problem with it.

But i'll definately switch it around tomorrow morning when i get up.

I still can't help but think Utorrent is somehow responsible. I've read on the utorrent forums of other people with the exact same issue but people over there are saying only a driver could be causing the problem - which is strange.

Thanks man
I am curious what is in the other PCI slot?


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23 Jul 2009   #22
dook

Windows 7600.16385 / Vista x64 / XP
 
 

Morning everyone,

@squonksc - It was a TV Tuner. I've taken it out now and I'm still getting the same problems. I'm gonna try switching the ports around now, see if i get anywhere.

@usamsa - The update adviser told me that my sound card isn't compatible with Windows 7. I'm guessing that would be what's causing the error? Apparently M-Audio are at an internal beta stage for drivers for the sound card. The vista 64 ones did work fine though appart from one snag - the PC wouldn't shut down, so i had to make a logoff rule to end the audio service and after that i seemingly had no problems.
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23 Jul 2009   #23
dook

Windows 7600.16385 / Vista x64 / XP
 
 

okay, i've switched the pci slot that the soundcard is in, the system was fine for about 2 hours. Then I opened up uTorrent and the PC crashed in like 5 minutes.

Also, as earlier suggested, i did a memory check. (memtest x86+) that came back with no errors.

So i'm still very lost. I can't understand why it would be uTorrent causing it to crash, but it's the only constant i can find.
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23 Jul 2009   #24
vpr

Windows 7 Pro X64
 
 

Hi Dook,

I've been having similar problems to you, except mine have been ongoing for about a year now. It doesn't help that I'm an American living in China that doesn't speak fluent Chinese, so it's difficult to find parts and/or test things.

I've replaced my motherboard twice, memory twice, bought new HDs (added them to my existing ones though), and done all sorts of tests but I continue to get random restarts, bsods, freezes both in Vista x86 and windows 7 x64. It's gotten to the point where I just want to get rid of my computer and start over, but it's not something I can afford.

I too also have a 9800GTX+ and I also run uTorrent (all night) - these are similarities I've seen between our posts. I'm currently running a C2D E6300 w/ 4GB Ram (1x1GB or 2x2GB doesn't matter) and several SATAII HDs.

Keep us updated, I'm paying attention to this thread.
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23 Jul 2009   #25
dook

Windows 7600.16385 / Vista x64 / XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by vpr View Post
Hi Dook,

I've been having similar problems to you, except mine have been ongoing for about a year now. It doesn't help that I'm an American living in China that doesn't speak fluent Chinese, so it's difficult to find parts and/or test things.

I've replaced my motherboard twice, memory twice, bought new HDs (added them to my existing ones though), and done all sorts of tests but I continue to get random restarts, bsods, freezes both in Vista x86 and windows 7 x64. It's gotten to the point where I just want to get rid of my computer and start over, but it's not something I can afford.

I too also have a 9800GTX+ and I also run uTorrent (all night) - these are similarities I've seen between our posts. I'm currently running a C2D E6300 w/ 4GB Ram (1x1GB or 2x2GB doesn't matter) and several SATAII HDs.

Keep us updated, I'm paying attention to this thread.

I've gotta say Vista 64 has always ran perfectly for me, as does XP. However when this started messing up the other night, I installed Vista and it's being a little choppy on there now too.

I'm on windows 7 now and as long as i don't open uTorrent it runs fine. What driver do you have installed for your GFX card?
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23 Jul 2009   #26
dook

Windows 7600.16385 / Vista x64 / XP
 
 

I've left the PC on for the past 8 hours and it's been absolutely fine without uTorrent open.

I really think it has to be uTorrent. But what the hell could cause it to crash the system completely?!

my system hasn't crashed like that since XP...
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23 Jul 2009   #27
vpr

Windows 7 Pro X64
 
 

@dook

I was using the latest available drivers from nvidia - it has crashed so many times that windows 7 will no longer boot saying that the registry is either missing or corrupt, and asking me to do a repair. However, something is wrong with my DVD drive as it will burn a disk fine, but won't read the same disk it's burnt.
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23 Jul 2009   #28
Antman

 

You have not filled out your system specs in acordance with forum policy. I will try to help you without the information I really need.

Uninstall uTorrent. Acquire latest version, no betas. Reinstall and test.

uTorrent, in and of itself, is neither problematic nor a likely cause of your memory crashes. Any torrent client stresses RAM and thrashes a disk, stressing the drive motor. This stress is also placed on the drive controller/host adapter, which is more tolerant. The stress is felt in the power distribution, not exclusive to the power supply, and can affect the northbridge (memory).

Possible solutions (only on-site tech can really determine the order):

Temporarily replace power supply. You may be underpowered (how can I tell w/o specs?) Make sure the test PSU is of appropriate capacity. Boot and test.

You can individually uninstall each device via Device Manager. Scan for hardware changes, allowing Windows to automatically install found drivers. Manually install certain video and sound drivers, specialty cards IF you know there are special concerns relative to that card. Boot each time. Replace all drivers before testing. You MUST begin with the chipset drivers - No Exception to validate this method.

You report MemTest with no errors but not iterations. MemTest does not stress the power distribution across the whole board. Replace all RAM chips with known good sticks, or remove and rotate each current RAM chip per test. Boot and test with single RAM chips and cycle through all sticks. It may be necessary to populate two DIMM slots and perform a cycle of this test - it is possible for all sticks to pass individually but to fail as a group.

Tweaking voltages in BIOS may help. Bump the northbridge up one notch. Boot and test.

Replace HDD, recreate OS and software environment. Test. If this fails, you have a mother/daughterboard problem. Remove all cards possible, boot and test. Replace one card at a time, inserting high power draw cards closest to the PSU (especially NIC if applicable). If all cards pass, you have a mobo or CPU problem.

Other knowledgeable members, please advise.
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24 Jul 2009   #29
vpr

Windows 7 Pro X64
 
 

I updated my system specs, but the OP hasn't yet.
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24 Jul 2009   #30
dook

Windows 7600.16385 / Vista x64 / XP
 
 

Sorry, I posted my specs in the original post, but I'll do them on the profile part now too.

fyi, my power supply is an ezcool 550w.

I've never had this problem before. I'm dual booting (two hard drives) and XP runs just fine?

It's going to take a while to do all the recommendations you gave there so i'll give you an update in a few hours.

Thanks
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