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Windows 7: lots of BSOD, one problem to the next

26 Jul 2011   #11
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greebz View Post
It looks like it may just be gaming now. I left the computer on all last night and it had zero problems this morning. I will check when I get home from work and see if that is still the case. Its just hard to believe its hardware related when I get the BSOD in old and new games.

If it is the driver, and I have tried the CD version of the driver that came with the card and the latest driver as downloaded from amd, where do I turn to next?
we probably try that once more but ensure that all old drivers have been deleted. The de-install or update process apparently does not always work well which is why a lot of people here advise on using specialized graphic driver removal software like driversweeper:

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When upgrading your graphic driver you MUST remove all traces of the current driver. In order to do that we recommend using Driver Sweeper

Driver Sweeper is a fast tool to remove driver leftovers from your system. It's very important to remove your drivers on a proper way, because driver leftovers can cause problems like stability and startup problems. You can use it if you want to update/remove drivers from your system.

How to use ?

There are two methods to use Driver Sweeper.
Both methods achieve the same results. This method is always able to clean all files.

This method will delete remaining files upon reboot (if deleting failed). You can clean your drivers this way:

- Use the official uninstaller(s) of the driver(s) you want to uninstall.
- Reboot your PC in Safe Mode.
- Run Driver Sweeper and select what to clean.
- Analyse lists all the entries possible to remove, cleaning removes the entries selected.
- More drivers can be selected for the same cleaning process.

What can it be used for ?
The current supported drivers are NVIDIA (Display and Chipset), ATI (Display), Creative (Sound) Realtek (Sound), Ageia (PhysX) and Microsoft (Mouse).

Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper
When it is removed then download and install the fresh copy, from the manufacturers' site if possible.



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26 Jul 2011   #12
Greebz

Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

alright thanks for that MvdB. I will try using that utility tonight when I get home from work and let you know how it worked out
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28 Jul 2011   #13
Greebz

Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

Ok sorry it took a bit to get back to you guys, MvdB that solution worked great, it would seem that the leftover remnants of the NVIDIA drivers from the old card was messing things up, I just ran Total War Shogun 2 for 17 hours, it froze and locked up, but there were no BSOD at all, so i believe the error i encountered was more software related than anything with the drivers.

Thank God it was not hardware related.

Thanks again!
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01 Aug 2011   #14
Greebz

Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

Alright so, now I am no longer getting BSODs, however I cannot run ANY game now, any game will freeze anywhere from 5 min to an hour into the game. Happens in newer games such as Shogun 2 Total War, Heroes 5, and Empire total war, but also very much older games like Knights of the Old Republic and sid meirs pirates.

Since before when i was getting the BSODs, sometimes it would take up to an hour of waiting before the computer would be able to boot, if I turned it on right after a bsod, it would not boot, everything would have power but what seemed like the HDD.

Could this mean my HDD is going? I find this doubtful because why would everything work fine as long as i am not running any game and can use it as an internet machine easily.

Could it be the Power Supply is not getting enough power out? Could be, but I do not have a spare to test with and would hate to spend money on something unneeded.

The other problem I can think of is possibly the processor overheating?

Im not sure if I should have created this as a new thread, but since I believe this all stems from the same issue I figured I should just continue posting here.

Please help I do not want to have to reactive xbox live to get some gaming in haha
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01 Aug 2011   #15
Greebz

Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

Checked the power supply when I was home for lunch. It is 600w and does not seem to be the problem. I unplugged both the DVD drives and the PC wouldnt start. Im almost positive it is the CPU overheating at this point, will try adding new thermal compound tonight
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02 Aug 2011   #16
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

It does sound like a possible temp problem, though not sure if it is CPU. I would guess it is GPU..
Have you used something like HWMonitor to keep track? CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

PS... I know you probably meant it correctly but just to be sure... : One NEVER ADDS thermal compound. You have to clean well with a alcohol based solution and apply new using your preferred method (rice pea clot in the middle or spreading or lines...). I prefer ric pea and let pressure take its course, imho least air bubble chance.
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02 Aug 2011   #17
Greebz

Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

Yeah I removed the old thermal compound first using isopropenol(however you spell it) alcohol. added the new stuff and still having problems, cannot even play heroes of might and magic 2. I do not think the graphics card is overheating since I just added that because the old one fried out. What I am beggening to believe happend is when the first problems occured and the old video card fried out, it also damaged the motherboard, there was some discoloration around the PCIE slot. I am going to try one more thing tonight and if that does not work I am calling the system dead and I will have to buy new parts.

Also just a random side note, but holy crap my CPU heatsink is a pain in the ass to get on. any reason they make it this way?
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02 Aug 2011   #18
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

ok, good luck on that...
Out of interest, what are you trying out tonight?
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02 Aug 2011   #19
Greebz

Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

picking up my friend and his PC, going to plug my components into his one by one as a test to see what is working, if everything comes back fine then i can be positive it is the motehrboard that is having a problem.

plus if that is the case I will be upgrading to DDR3 RAM so my friend wants to snipe my DDR2, which is how i talked him into coming over haha
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02 Aug 2011   #20
MvdB

Windows 7 64b Ultimate
 
 

Just a check... you've had this system for quite a while, running on an older OS right? Lately you updated to W7. You told us that... but what HW modifications, if any, have you done?
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