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Windows 7: BSOD help (may be related to GPU temps.)

03 Feb 2012   #21

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bsbsod View Post
Ok, got the newer version installed,

should I now uninstall the drivers for the GPU or just leave it be (they are the current ones), update the DirectX and test it that way?
Realized I never answered this. Just do your normal routine and see how things go once you clean out the GPU of any dust. We'll worry about re-installing drivers if you continue to have crashes. Best wishes that ASACPI.SYS and dust were the only problems.

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03 Feb 2012   #22

Windows 7 64 bit

yeah same hopes here, i will play and do my normal routine for a week, if i see no issues, i will make sure to post back and let you all know. Thanks sooooo much for your help.
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03 Feb 2012   #23

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

You're very welcome. Before doing so, what are your idle temperatures now? Any better after cleaning out the dust?
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03 Feb 2012   #24

Windows 7 64 bit

well its a mixed bag, temps did drop to around 60 degrees, but i've read everywhere, that apparently having dual high-res displays can make the gtx570 idle very hot. To counteract this most people make sure that when gaming they use a single monitor, or for those that game in extended monitors they have after-market cooling. So far so good.
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03 Feb 2012   #25

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

Well at least your temperatures dropped a bit. That is a good sign. Good luck!
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04 Feb 2012   #26

Windows 7 64 bit

Looks like I spoke too soon. Here's the new dump file with the .html file thingy.

Hopefully you can interpret it and point me in the right direction...

In other news, its not the temperatures. At least not now. When I crashed I happened to be conveniently looking at EVGA precision dashboard and my GPU was at about 55 C and my CPU was around 50.

Let me know what you think.
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04 Feb 2012   #27

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

I notice drivermax installed on your system. Do you use it to keep all your drivers up to date, or only the ones that are actually causing problems? Using it for all drivers can cause system instability and lead to the crashes you are experiencing. Many of the drivers software like drivermax will download are actually for other devices than the ones on your computer, so while the driver is updated, it supports the wrong hardware. If you are using drivermax, the fastest course of action is to Repair Install Windows 7.

If you do not need to or want to do a repair install, proceed through the rest of this post. I am including the Driver Verifier steps for troubleshooting in case you decide not to do the repair install even though you are using drivermax for all your drivers.

I also notice that you have not yet installed all Windows updates. Please proceed to do so.

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.11.0001.404 AMD64
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Loading Dump File [K:\Kingston\BSODDmpFiles\bsbsod\Windows_NT6_BSOD_jcgriff2\020312-26317-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*
Executable search path is: 
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (4 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`03052000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`03297670
Debug session time: Fri Feb  3 21:43:11.816 2012 (GMT-7)
System Uptime: 0 days 4:20:13.845
Loading Kernel Symbols
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
*                                                                             *
*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck A, {fffff880488fbc8b, 2, 1, fffff80003124bf7}

Probably caused by : memory_corruption

Followup: memory_corruption

2: kd> !analyze -v
*                                                                             *
*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *

An attempt was made to access a pageable (or completely invalid) address at an
interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high.  This is usually
caused by drivers using improper addresses.
If a kernel debugger is available get the stack backtrace.
Arg1: fffff880488fbc8b, memory referenced
Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL
Arg3: 0000000000000001, bitfield :
	bit 0 : value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
	bit 3 : value 0 = not an execute operation, 1 = execute operation (only on chips which support this level of status)
Arg4: fffff80003124bf7, address which referenced memory

Debugging Details:

WRITE_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from fffff80003301100


nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+2ac7
fffff800`03124bf7 d2740441        sal     byte ptr [rsp+rax+41h],cl




PROCESS_NAME:  chrome.exe

TRAP_FRAME:  fffff880088f34b0 -- (.trap 0xfffff880088f34b0)
NOTE: The trap frame does not contain all registers.
Some register values may be zeroed or incorrect.
rax=0000000040008602 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=000000000ac59188
rdx=fffffa800ac59170 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=fffff80003124bf7 rsp=fffff880088f3648 rbp=fffff880088f3b00
 r8=fffffa800ae5c130  r9=fffff880088f3690 r10=0000000000000000
r11=0000000040000001 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000
r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000000
iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x2ac7:
fffff800`03124bf7 d2740441        sal     byte ptr [rsp+rax+41h],cl ss:0018:fffff880`488fbc8b=??
Resetting default scope

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff800030ce1e9 to fffff800030cec40

fffff880`088f3368 fffff800`030ce1e9 : 00000000`0000000a fffff880`488fbc8b 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000001 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff880`088f3370 fffff800`030cce60 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`09b39370 fffff880`0111ba00 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiBugCheckDispatch+0x69
fffff880`088f34b0 fffff800`03124bf7 : fffff800`03166607 fffff880`088f36f0 fffffa80`0adbbc28 fffffa80`0adbbc28 : nt!KiPageFault+0x260
fffff880`088f3648 fffff800`03166607 : fffff880`088f36f0 fffffa80`0adbbc28 fffffa80`0adbbc28 fffff880`088f39e0 : nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x2ac7
fffff880`088f3650 fffff800`03072ec1 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0adbbc28 fffffa80`07c618f0 : nt!FsRtlPrivateCheckForExclusiveLockAccess+0x37
fffff880`088f3690 fffff880`0128556a : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0ac19b00 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000001 : nt!FsRtlPrivateLock+0x189
fffff880`088f3760 fffff880`011094a1 : fffffa80`0ac19b00 fffffa80`09b393f0 fffff880`088f3b48 fffffa80`0a687740 : Ntfs!NtfsFastLock+0x182
fffff880`088f3980 fffff880`0110c8ba : fffff880`088f3a50 fffffa80`09b39388 fffffa80`0a687700 fffff880`088f3b00 : fltmgr!FltpPerformFastIoCall+0x491
fffff880`088f39e0 fffff880`0112ddda : fffff880`088f3b48 00000000`00000000 fffff880`088f3b58 fffff880`088f3b38 : fltmgr!FltpPassThroughFastIo+0xda
fffff880`088f3a20 fffff800`03341cc7 : fffffa80`0ac19b00 fffffa80`0a687740 fffffa80`06d1c800 fffffa80`0a687740 : fltmgr!FltpFastIoLock+0x19a
fffff880`088f3ad0 fffff800`030cded3 : fffffa80`097f7660 00000000`00a2e168 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!NtLockFile+0x2c5
fffff880`088f3bb0 00000000`7793214a : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13
00000000`00a2e138 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x7793214a


CHKIMG_EXTENSION: !chkimg -lo 50 -db !nt
4 errors : !nt (fffff80003124bc0-fffff80003124bf0)
fffff80003124bc0 *cf  41  18  73  06  48  8d  41  18  eb  04  49  8d  40  08  48 .A.s.H.A...I.@.H
fffff80003124bd0 *b0  00  48  89  02  c3  90  90  90  90  90  90  90  90  90  90 ..H.............
fffff80003124be0 *20  85  db  74  08  e9  d3  e8  f4  ff  48  8b  da  4d  85  c9  ..t......H..M..
fffff80003124bf0 *9f  03  49  89  09  4d  85  d2  74  04  41  c6  02  01  48  8b ..I..M..t.A...H.

MODULE_NAME: memory_corruption

IMAGE_NAME:  memory_corruption

FOLLOWUP_NAME:  memory_corruption





Followup: memory_corruption
Possible causes are Memory problems... Corrupted hard disk file system... Corrupted System Files... Lack of Windows updates... Antivirus Software...

Thanks to Dave76 for help understanding possible causes.

We will start with the common problems first (see bold possible causes). Do the following steps and test after each to see if stability increases (the memory tests you can run concurrently as they will not increase stability unless you are forced to move modules around). Post back your results after each step, and if you get a blue screen crash, upload the files again and await further instructions after we are able to analyze the crash.
  • If you are overclocking any hardware, please stop.

  • Install all Windows updates.

  • Run the boot version of Memtest86+ paying close attention to Parts 2 and 3 of the tutorial. Also, in case Memtest86+ misses anything and comes up with no errors, run the extended version of the Windows Memory Diagnostics Tool for at least five passes. These you may want to run overnight since they take a long time to complete (run them an hour before bed each of the next two nights and check before going to sleep that they are still running).

  • An underlying driver may be incompatible\conflicting with your system. Run Driver Verifier to find any issues. To run Driver Verifier, do the following:
    a. Backup your system and user files
    b. Create a system restore point
    c. If you do not have a Windows 7 DVD, Create a system repair disc
    d. Run Driver Verifier

    If Windows cannot start in normal mode with driver verifier running, start in safe mode. If it cannot start in safe mode or normal mode, restore the system restore point using System Restore OPTION TWO.

    Thanks to zigzag3143 for contributing to the Verifier steps.
    If you are unable to start Windows with all drivers being verified or if the blue screen crashes fail to create .dmp files, run them in groups of 5 or 10 until you find a group that causes blue screen crashes and stores the blue screen .dmp files.
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04 Feb 2012   #28

Windows 7 64 bit

Ok, I've done all the updates I could do through Windows update (the one missing was for definitions for Security Essentials). I will now try the memtest boot version to see if it detects any issues. I will try the extended Microsoft Memory diagnostic later tonight when I'm going to bed so as to leave it run over-night. Will post again tomorrow with the results unless memtest comes back with something sooner than that.
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05 Feb 2012   #29

Windows 7 64 bit

Well, I left Mem-test running all night and most of the morning, it completed 7 passes, with no errors. I will run the extended version of the memory diagnostic tool for windows tonight to see if that brings up anything. in the meantime I've managed to use the system for hours, I mean hours on end and had only one BSOD when I stepped away and there was nothing running (no games, apps or anything). I have since turned on the driver verifier and am now hoping another crash will occur that might shed on a potential driver issue.

My question:

If it really is the ram chips would it not fail sooner, or while under load?

It seems odd the systems BSODs when I'm not doing anything that might cause undue stress on the RAM.

I will get back to you again soon hopefully. I'm making sure to push the system to fail now. I've got both my displays on, games going, music streaming, whole enchilada in the hopes that I may trigger the BSOD.

See you all soon, and thanks for your continued patience.
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05 Feb 2012   #30

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

It depends on the problems with the RAM. obvious symptoms do not always present themselves. If it happens when you are away from the computer, it could also be a power management issue causing the fault, and sleep mode puts information into the memory, so it could be RAM as well.
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