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Windows 7: bluescreen - twice

29 Aug 2009   #51
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

even if no minidumps there should be some mention of an app failing in event viewer


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29 Aug 2009   #52
briligg

windows 7 x64
 
 

0 events hardware, ie, key management service, media center, win powershell. 3 events antivirus, information level. nothing shown on the different diagnostic pages...
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29 Aug 2009   #53
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

If BSOD is invoked by ram there is nothing to dump.

Did the compguy think of increasing the voltage of the ram when he overclocked it?

greetz
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29 Aug 2009   #54
briligg

windows 7 x64
 
 

i haven't had a chance to talk to him, i don't know what he did. i'm going to see him today.

but it isn't overclocked now, and i did get a bluescreen as soon as real temp started it's stress test...
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29 Aug 2009   #55
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by briligg View Post
i haven't had a chance to talk to him, i don't know what he did. i'm going to see him today.

but it isn't overclocked now, and i did get a bluescreen as soon as real temp started it's stress test...
Sounds like your ram is damaged by the overclocking. Hope I'm wrong.

Good luck.
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29 Aug 2009   #56
briligg

windows 7 x64
 
 

eek!
we removed the dvd drive that was right over it, now it has plenty of head room. especially since the side of the case isn't on right now. and now there is room to put a really oversize fan into to side (after which i'd really like to take out the two noisy, bitty fans at the back). the good news is, initial testing with memtest doesn't show any errors so far... now i've done everything i can to keep the ram cool, i'll put memtest back on and let it run a good while...

so, 1.5 V for the ram is good? how can i monitor it's temp?
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29 Aug 2009   #57
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by briligg View Post
eek!
we removed the dvd drive that was right over it, now it has plenty of head room. especially since the side of the case isn't on right now. and now there is room to put a really oversize fan into to side (after which i'd really like to take out the two noisy, bitty fans at the back). the good news is, initial testing with memtest doesn't show any errors so far... now i've done everything i can to keep the ram cool, i'll put memtest back on and let it run a good while...

so, 1.5 V for the ram is good? how can i monitor it's temp?
Everest Ultimate Edition.

Type everest in google.

greetz
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29 Aug 2009   #58
briligg

windows 7 x64
 
 

ok, everest is pretty complete... but i don't see physical data like temperature...
i had pc probe on earlier, it gave me temps for nb and sb, don't remember if it had ram... i'm going to reinstall it...

i'm sort of swimming in data here, but i'm going with the idea that the bsods were caused by overheated ram - that seems to fit everything. i'm not even going to stress test the system until i get better cooling installed. memtest was going fine, but it was causing the cpu temp to slowly creep up. i shut it down with core 0 at 76 deg c, after about a half hour running.

solving that mystery about why there are no minidumps made everything fall into place. thanks squonksc, for that. streetwolf has also been a big help. i'll check back once we've resolved the heat issue and i've run a proper stress test. cheers, all.
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29 Aug 2009   #59
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by briligg View Post
ok, everest is pretty complete... but i don't see physical data like temperature...
i had pc probe on earlier, it gave me temps for nb and sb, don't remember if it had ram... i'm going to reinstall it...

i'm sort of swimming in data here, but i'm going with the idea that the bsods were caused by overheated ram - that seems to fit everything. i'm not even going to stress test the system until i get better cooling installed. memtest was going fine, but it was causing the cpu temp to slowly creep up. i shut it down with core 0 at 76 deg c, after about a half hour running.

solving that mystery about why there are no minidumps made everything fall into place. thanks squonksc, for that. streetwolf has also been a big help. i'll check back once we've resolved the heat issue and i've run a proper stress test. cheers, all.
Everest does have temps sensors for everything, including ram.

Read my PM, I can show you how.
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31 Aug 2009   #60
briligg

windows 7 x64
 
 

update - i got the everest sidebar running (didn't notice that option earlier), and the memory timing was 7-7-7-20. the bios must set it that way on default. ocz recommends 7-7-7-24, so i reset it to that. i didn't change anything else.

my comp guy says he never oc'ed. he checked asus's website and my memory is rated as compatible with this mb, so he left it at that. he advised checking each memory module by putting in one at a time and testing it. sounds reasonable, but if i don't get another bsod i'm going to leave that - kind of a bother. if i get problems after i put in proper cooling and do a stress test, i'll do it. he also felt that although a ram problem could certainly explain the missing minidumps, a software issue is also possible. he asked for the error code on the blue screen - but there isn't one, the only numbers are the technical info #s at the bottom, which i assume is not what he meant. i guess that points even more to the ram.

oh, and still no temps for the ram. maybe my mb doesn't have a sensor for that. nb, sb, and gpu are always a little warm, 70 - 75 deg. c.
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