Mem Management,Page fault BSODS + Memtest Errors

essenbe · 13 Oct 2012

Try going into bios, setting the timings and voltage which is writtten on the sticks, they will be the first 4 you find. Set the timings and voltage by hand (manually). Increase your CPU-NB to 1.2. See if that helps. Sometimes running more than 2 sticks, the memory controller needs some help. If that does not work, we are going to be doing a lot of testing to find out the problem. Also, please show a screenshot of CPUz on the memory tab.

EDIT: according to the screenshots in CPUz, the memory is the same make, model and is correct, if they are a matchedset. Modules are made in sets and tested to work together and that is what you want. Sometimes, even the same models, if not a set, do not run well together. When you bought them from Microcenter, were they in 1 package, packaged by Crucial?

magepker · 13 Oct 2012

essenbe said:

Try going into bios, setting the timings and voltage which is writtten on the sticks, they will be the first 4 you find. Set the timings and voltage by hand (manually). Increase your CPU-NB to 1.2. See if that helps. Sometimes running more than 2 sticks, the memory controller needs some help. If that does not work, we are going to be doing a lot of testing to find out the problem. Also, please show a screenshot of CPUz on the memory tab.

ive done that. after each time i got a BSOD i increase the dimm and cpu-nb voltage by .05

ill set the timings manually though and see if that helps.

essenbe · 13 Oct 2012

Also, plese show the cpuz memory tab. We already have the spd tab. The spd tab shows what the memory can run at. The memory tab shows what the memory is running at. Also, in bios, if you have the option set the memory frequency to 13333 (666). 9-9-9-24-33 should be the first options in bios. They should be listed as CL, tRCD,TRP, and tRAS.

magepker · 13 Oct 2012

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according to the memory tab its already running at those timings, should i still manually set it?

edit: just saw ur edited post, when i bought them from microcenter they were in there own microcenter packaging, when i look up the serial number its for the solo ram sticks not the kit, the kit has different serial numbers.

The BLS4G3D1339DS1S00 is the individual stick (which is what i bought from microcenter in a single package for both sticks) whereas the BLS2KIT4G3D1339DS1S0 is the 2x4GB kit....

im not sure if that has any significance tho.

edit2: alright im back, set the timings like you said and it mirrors what cpu-z said earlier.
double checked the voltages. cpu-nb is set to auto @ 1.265, dram voltage @ 1.6 and nb volt @ 1.2 (been running this way for 2 days or so)

essenbe · 13 Oct 2012

Just for a try. Seperate them into the 2 sets you have, as I understand, you have a 8GB kit (2X4GB) and 2 single sticks. Use only the 8GB kit (2X4GB). Look in your manual. It will tell you which slots for 1 stick, 2 sticks. Set them in the correct slots for 2 sticks. Leave the other sticks out for now. See if that is any different.

The hard part with ram is matching the sticks, the dimm slots on the board and the Integrated memory controller on the CPU. If your problem is memory, the process of determining which of those 3 things can be quite long and very time consuming. Also, while running keep a check on your CPU temps. I use Core Temp but others like Real Temp. Either is pretty good, and as accurate as a temp monitoring program can be. Either will tell you your TJMax, which is the max individual core temp. You do not want to get close to that during normal useage. I also assume you have updated your drivers from the MSI page. If not please do so. You may also want to look at the hardware monitor in bios. look at the +12V, 5V and the other voltages. They should be within +/- 5% of the values. I recall an SSD mentioned in another post. Do you have an SSD? I don't see it listed in your system specs.

essenbe · 13 Oct 2012

One more thing. If it has not already been said, if you are overclocking, stop. Set bios to optimized defaults, at least until we figure out what is going on. You can change the boot order and sata mode and things like that but stay out of the overclocking section and run everything at default values.

magepker · 13 Oct 2012

well the 4 sticks are 2 sets. 1 set 2x2gb other set 2x4gb total 12gb.

I originally ran this rig with only the 2x2gb kit and it ran fine no bsods.

when i purchased the 2x4gb kit is when i ran into trouble. i get bsods with only the 2x4gb sticks in btw since i tried that about 2 weeks ago.

ill remove the 2x2gb sticks again and do whatever you need me to do ^_^

no i dont have an SSD, i only mentioned it because an above poster mentioned for me to update my SSD firmware.

according to coretemp TJMax is 70C.. i have pretty good fans in my case so i dont think i'll get anywhere near that but ill definitely monitor it.

I was in my bios earlier and didnt see anything labeled hardware monitor, is there anything else it might be labeled as?

edit: definitely not overclocking, havent read into it enough to even attempt. and yea all the drivers are updated.

magepker · 13 Oct 2012

just went back into the bios and i guess each time i went in there i totally ignored where it said "H/W Monitor" >_< Anyway, 5v was @ 5.061V, 12v @ 11.928V, 3.3v @ 3.360V and CPU vcore @ 1.352V

Layback Bear · 13 Oct 2012

You never did indicate whether you installed both sticks as per the motherboard manual. I have been having a problem finding your manual on line.

magepker · 13 Oct 2012

Layback Bear said:

You never did indicate whether you installed both sticks as per the motherboard manual. I have been having a problem finding your manual on line.

yes i did (dimm1 and dimm2 starting closest to CPU), heres the manual; MSI Global ? Mainboard - 870-G45 "E7599v2.1.zip"

manual says; "In Dual-Channel mode, make sure that you install memory modules of the same type
and density in different channel DIMM slots." wouldnt that be the opposite of how it says to install them?

The mobo is color coordinated, 2 blue 2 black..

oh btw, thanks for the quick responses and loads of help.