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Windows 7: Another BSOD thread ... sorry:p

06 Oct 2009   #11
ApolloCXVII

Windows 7 Ult (x64)
 
 

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run a system file check (sfc /scannow)
Ok so i ran a system file check and it said that it found some errors but didnt tell me exactly what they were! what would be the next step now?

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If it's an AMD processor, I'd suggest a thorough examination of the many detailed posts on the AMD forum regarding this complex issue.
Checked the AMD forums. Found a few threads with 'similar' problems but know one seems to know whats going on.
BIOS update seemed to come up a bit in the forums but how can i update my bios on my M3A? The Asus's bios update tool doesn't have windows 7 as option when i go through the product select system on the ASUS website, and when i tried the Vista version it said it was not compatible with my operating sytem.

Thanks for the help so far guys!


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06 Oct 2009   #12
septprince

Window 7 build 7600, Xp pro(VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ApolloCXVII View Post
Quote:
run a system file check (sfc /scannow)
Ok so i ran a system file check and it said that it found some errors but didnt tell me exactly what they were! what would be the next step now?

Quote:
If it's an AMD processor, I'd suggest a thorough examination of the many detailed posts on the AMD forum regarding this complex issue.
Checked the AMD forums. Found a few threads with 'similar' problems but know one seems to know whats going on.
BIOS update seemed to come up a bit in the forums but how can i update my bios on my M3A? The Asus's bios update tool doesn't have windows 7 as option when i go through the product select system on the ASUS website, and when i tried the Vista version it said it was not compatible with my operating sytem.

Thanks for the help so far guys!
Install it by changing its compatibility mode to vista. It should work.
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11 Oct 2009   #13
ApolloCXVII

Windows 7 Ult (x64)
 
 

BIOS has been updated. Seems to have fixed it (fingers crossed). But I'd like to be sure can you guys recommend a stress test of my CPU or system as a whole that will confirm that my system is no longer getting these blue screens?

Thanks.
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11 Oct 2009   #14
ApolloCXVII

Windows 7 Ult (x64)
 
 

Ok so updating the BIOS didnt help. my system just blue screened with the same error twice in a row. Has anyone got any ideas what i could try now!!?
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11 Oct 2009   #15
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ApolloCXVII View Post
Ok so updating the BIOS didnt help. my system just blue screened with the same error twice in a row. Has anyone got any ideas what i could try now!!?
The error means that the processor cores are having trouble getting each other's attention. There was a range of AMD processors which were particularly susceptible to this issue, and some of them needed microcode updates and such to fix the underlying cause. I don't know whether your processor falls into that category, which is why I suggested you read the AMD forums carefully. From memory, search for "optimizer", "phenom", and "TLB" (translation lookaside buffer).

Otherwise, it could be anything from a literally broken processor to a BIOS power management plan that allows at least some of the cores to "go to sleep" to the point where they are inaccessible in a timely manner. A commonly attempted workaround is to disable all processor and PCI express power management in the hope that the individual cores will always stay awake, thus masking the issue. Obviously, that has very negative effects on laptop battery life and power consumption in general. Run these from an elevated CMD prompt and follow the bouncing ball from there:

powercfg /?
powercfg -l
powercfg -query

The ones you want to modify are the "Link State Power Management" and the "Minimum processor state" for your chosen power plan. Change the settings so everything is in "high performance" mode all the time.
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13 Oct 2009   #16
ApolloCXVII

Windows 7 Ult (x64)
 
 

Thanks so much for your help H2SO4. Finally seemed to have worked this problem out. The problem is basically how you explained from what i can tell.

AMD released a 'tlb' fix which was in turn distributed by the mother board brands bios updates.

I've applied the fix and everything seems to be going fine, however after researching the patch it seems that it often has a much larger drop in processing power then the 10 % conceded by AMD's media release. many games don't perform very well under the fix, such as World in Conflict which is almost unplayable dropping a whopping 40%.

Admins this problem has been solved. I suggest anyone upgrading with from xp to windows 7, running a phenom 9500 or 9600, should google the tlb fix if they run into a similar BSOD.


Thanks for everyones help. - ApolloCXVII

PS now "upgrading" to a AMD Phenom II X3 720 I've read good things about these tri cores, should be fun.
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13 Oct 2009   #17
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ApolloCXVII View Post
Thanks so much for your help H2SO4. Finally seemed to have worked this problem out. The problem is basically how you explained from what i can tell.

AMD released a 'tlb' fix which was in turn distributed by the mother board brands bios updates.

I've applied the fix and everything seems to be going fine, however after researching the patch it seems that it often has a much larger drop in processing power then the 10 % conceded by AMD's media release. many games don't perform very well under the fix, such as World in Conflict which is almost unplayable dropping a whopping 40%.

Admins this problem has been solved. I suggest anyone upgrading with from xp to windows 7, running a phenom 9500 or 9600, should google the tlb fix if they run into a similar BSOD.


Thanks for everyones help. - ApolloCXVII

PS now "upgrading" to a AMD Phenom II X3 720 I've read good things about these tri cores, should be fun.
I'm glad to hear you got it sorted. Have rep for being methodical and patient
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