Random ntoskernel.exe BSOD under varying conditions. Please help.

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  1. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Pro SP-1 (64 bit)
       #1

    Random ntoskernel.exe BSOD under varying conditions. Please help.


    Okay back in June of 2012 i decided to build my first computer. Everything went smoothly and i was up and running for a couple of months until i started to get random BSODs. They happen when i have been playing heavy games or when i have just been searching the internet. Sometimes i can game for 8 hours straight no problem then the next time like 20 min. I ignored them because they only happened every couple weeks. A month ago i had had enough and decided to do something about it. I read every thread i could about it and here is a list of what i have already tried.

    I have run bluescreenview and the only consistent file that is causing problems is ntoskernel.exe or some driver file that is different every time

    1. Updated all of my drivers
    2. Ran verifier for 24 hours and it caused no BSOD
    3. Ran memtest with no found errors for 48 hours
    4. Ran a GPU stress test with no BSOD or errors
    5. Ran CPU stress test with no BSOD or errors
    6. Ran manufacturer HDD test with no errors
    7. Reformatted raid drive and re-installed windows and still got BSODs
    8. Took drives out of raid and re-installed windows to a dedicated drive

    I have done everything except actually opening her up because i am still new to messing with hardware. I am at my wits end and would like any suggestions please.
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  2. Posts : 2,014
    Windows 7 Professional 64bit
       #2

    Hi,

    Your issue is most likely network related:

    ***************************************************************************
    ****
    *
    *
    * Bugcheck Analysis
    *
    *
    *
    ***************************************************************************
    ****
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    BugCheck D1, {45d8, 2, 0, fffff88001a51d90}
    Probably caused by : tcpip.sys ( tcpip!IppPendPacket+20 )
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    6: kd> !analyze -v
    ***************************************************************************
    ****
    *
    *
    * Bugcheck Analysis
    *
    *
    *
    ***************************************************************************
    ****
    DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)
    An attempt was made to access a pageable (or completely invalid) address at
    an interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This is usually
    caused by drivers using improper addresses.
    tcpip.sys
    Microsoft TCP/IP Driver (networking related)

    Please run SFC to check the integrity of all Windows 7 system files:

    Click on the Start > Type in search cmd
    Right click cmd at top and Run as Administrator
    Type SFC /scannow at the prompt

    SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

    Do you have any Avg/Avira software installed?

    I have asked another member to assist who is better equipped to deal with network issues / drivers.

    Cheers

    Dave
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  3. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #3

    With what my friend Northernsoul55 suggested, update the following drivers:


    Code:
    fffff880`068ba000 fffff880`06b6a000   athrx      (deferred)             
        Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\athrx.sys
        Image name: athrx.sys
        Timestamp:        Fri Oct 21 15:15:10 2011 (4EA13F26)
        CheckSum:         002AF1A0
        ImageSize:        002B0000
        Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    ================================================================================
    fffff880`05368000 fffff880`053bf000   e1c62x64   (deferred)             
        Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\e1c62x64.sys
        Image name: e1c62x64.sys
        Timestamp:        Wed Jul 20 22:07:53 2011 (4E270461)
        CheckSum:         00057931
        ImageSize:        00057000
        Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    As you can see, both the drivers are very old, so there are fair chance of network blockage. Updates are necessary.

    And, at the same time, Uninstall Super AntiSpyware, as it has some known issues with windows 7 sometimes.

    Let us know the results.
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  4. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Pro SP-1 (64 bit)
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Okay i ran sms/scannow and it didn't find any problems. I updated both of my network drivers. I don't think it's the network drivers though because i have turned each one off in turn with a BSOD on each one exclusively.

    Also I forgot to mention that i have updated my BIOS

    The BSODs are usually about once or twice a week so i will post as soon as one occurs or if nothing occurs in two weeks i will mark as solved.
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  5. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #5

    When you get the next BSOD, upload teh crash dump to be analyzed. May be it may give us some more hint about the issue.
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  6. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Pro SP-1 (64 bit)
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Okay it's been two weeks with no BSOD. I'm not sure if it was the drivers or unistalling Avira and superantispyware. Thanks guys so much for helping.

    Follow up question. Is MSE enough for antivirus, firewall, spyware, and malware or should i get another program to supplement it.
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  7. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #7

    justhekicker said:
    Okay it's been two weeks with no BSOD. I'm not sure if it was the drivers or unistalling Avira and superantispyware. Thanks guys so much for helping.
    Good to know. I guess you can mark this thread as solved now.

    justhekicker said:
    Follow up question. Is MSE enough for antivirus, firewall, spyware, and malware or should i get another program to supplement it.
    MSE is enough. Still, we use two other tools as on demand scanners.


    Nothing more is needed there.
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  8. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Pro SP-1 (64 bit)
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Thanks
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  9. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Pro SP-1 (64 bit)
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Okay so i just got another BSOD. I ran SF again and have uploaded the results and the specific minidump.
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  10. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #10

    This bugcheck code is inherent with AMD/ATI display driver, and so there is a less scope of troubleshoot it. If you use ATI, this particular BSOD may occur.
    Code:
    .........
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atikmdag.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atikmdag.sys
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    
    BugCheck A0000001, {5, 0, 0, 0}
    
    Probably caused by : atikmdag.sys ( atikmdag+2392c )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    0: kd> !analyze -v
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    Unknown bugcheck code (a0000001)
    Unknown bugcheck description
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 0000000000000005
    Arg2: 0000000000000000
    Arg3: 0000000000000000
    Arg4: 0000000000000000
    
    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    
    
    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0xA0000001
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    
    CURRENT_IRQL:  9
    
    TAG_NOT_DEFINED_c000000f:  FFFFF80000BA2FB0
    
    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff88005a9a92c to fffff80002e86c00
    
    STACK_TEXT:  
    fffff800`00b9c5f8 fffff880`05a9a92c : 00000000`a0000001 00000000`00000005 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
    fffff800`00b9c600 00000000`a0000001 : 00000000`00000005 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : atikmdag+0x2392c
    fffff800`00b9c608 00000000`00000005 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0xa0000001
    fffff800`00b9c610 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffff800`00b9c660 : 0x5
    
    
    STACK_COMMAND:  kb
    
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    atikmdag+2392c
    fffff880`05a9a92c ??              ???
    
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  1
    
    SYMBOL_NAME:  atikmdag+2392c
    
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    
    MODULE_NAME: atikmdag
    
    IMAGE_NAME:  atikmdag.sys
    
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  5147d1ba
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xA0000001_atikmdag+2392c
    
    BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xA0000001_atikmdag+2392c
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    0: kd> lmvm atikmdag
    start             end                 module name
    fffff880`05a77000 fffff880`065e2000   atikmdag T (no symbols)           
        Loaded symbol image file: atikmdag.sys
        Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys
        Image name: atikmdag.sys
        Timestamp:        Tue Mar 19 08:17:22 2013 (5147D1BA)
        CheckSum:         00B1557C
        ImageSize:        00B6B000
        Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    As a try, you may roll the display driver back to one that worked stable for you.
    Device Manager - Roll Back Driver
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