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Windows 7: BSOD due to kernel.

14 Oct 2009   #21
Herox

Windows 7 x86
 
 

Oh, if thats the case I can already tell you no it does not. After i installed it yesterday I left it running after a the install just sitting there. The only thing I did was turn off the shut off monitor on it. I left it idle for a good 3 or 4 hours. It just sat there at about 600mb ram usage and 0 - 20% cpu. Nothing happened. I now understand what you mean by clean and yes i did that and no nothing happened. It idles fine with nothing running then and it does now.

With all the **** installed to it, the AV, the messenger, the games, it idles fine running nothing but the av and system stuff.


Since I give up and I'll just go with the ram, what can I do? I cant buy more ram right now. I have no options, and I cant run windows 7 on the 512mb it has integrated, it just wont run. What am I supposed to do?


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14 Oct 2009   #22
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Herox View Post
Oh, if thats the case I can already tell you no it does not. After i installed it yesterday I left it running after a the install just sitting there. The only thing I did was turn off the shut off monitor on it. I left it idle for a good 3 or 4 hours. It just sat there at about 600mb ram usage and 0 - 20% cpu. Nothing happened. I now understand what you mean by clean and yes i did that and no nothing happened. It idles fine with nothing running then and it does now.

With all the **** installed to it, the AV, the messenger, the games, it idles fine running nothing but the av and system stuff.


Since I give up and I'll just go with the ram, what can I do? I cant buy more ram right now. I have no options, and I cant run windows 7 on the 512mb it has integrated, it just wont run. What am I supposed to do?
Do without the AV and the 3rd-party firewalls for a while - completely uninstall them (disabling is not a valid test).

Test the uTorrent+pidgin scenario in the complete absence of AV and those firewalls. If that works, you'll know you're on to something. I hope it does work, because that will mean those drivers are implicated.
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14 Oct 2009   #23
Herox

Windows 7 x86
 
 

I hope so. You dont know how upset thiss has made me. Really though I don't think I have BSOD before any of them. I know I did bsod once when I was installing something. probably the first dump of that list, maybe not. (dont remember if that was before or after the clean install). Dont take that to serious i just wanted to get it out there. I believe it was during an install update to adobe reader but i havnt updated mine yet so im sure its from before the clean install.

As for this no antivirus, what do I do for a firewall/scanner/av? Will windows defender protect me enough? Its not like I download random **** like an idiot.
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14 Oct 2009   #24
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Herox View Post
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As for this no antivirus, what do I do for a firewall/scanner/av? Will windows defender protect me enough? Its not like I download random **** like an idiot.
Just work it to death with your patented uTorrent+pidgin crash inducing mechanism but don't "run" anything you download. Even the nastiest viruses on earth can't self-activate. Download enough stuff to convince yourself whether the behaviour is different with the AV and firewalls uninstalled, but don't execute/run/view any of it.

The point is to test, not to use.

Have your data backed up first, just in case.
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14 Oct 2009   #25
Herox

Windows 7 x86
 
 

The only thing i actually care about is my music. As I said before I lost it all. It just hit me my sister has it backed up on her desktop. So nothing to really worry about i guess. I lost all my NFS saves, so thats dead to me.

Its almost 4:30 and i stayed up all night to try and fix this because I just like windows 7 alot, but its being such a hassel. I've seen other people having the same issues on 7 after upgrading ram or anything like that and then I find people who have no issues doing everything I have done hardware wise.


Sorry for being such a pest, I'll post back tomorrow with any results. Give it a full day should be enough right?
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14 Oct 2009   #26
ickymay

win7 ultimate / virtual box
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Herox View Post
I believe it was during an install update to adobe reader but i havnt updated mine yet so im sure its from before the clean install.
do you have adobe reader installed currently ?

this program caused some BSOD on XP systems by stressing the 2d driver acceleration on the Dell Optiplex

with a totally clean system you ideally want to force the BSOD error and If you can't then you need to install your 3rd party programs one by one until you can
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14 Oct 2009   #27
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Herox View Post
... I've seen other people having the same issues on 7 after upgrading ram or anything like that and then I find people who have no issues doing everything I have done hardware wise.
Thing is, "same issues" is almost meaningless. There are literally millions of machines running every flavour of Windows, and if you go searching you'll find individual reports of just about any problem imaginable. The vast majority are "environmental" - they are specific to the hardware and software environment in which they are being encountered, as opposed to being bugs in the OS.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Herox View Post
Sorry for being such a pest, I'll post back tomorrow with any results. Give it a full day should be enough right?
There's no need to be sorry. It's a help forum

Test it without AV+firewalls long enough to convince yourself whether or not the outcome is definitely different or not. You'll know best how long that takes.
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14 Oct 2009   #28
ickymay

win7 ultimate / virtual box
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Herox View Post
The only thing i actually care about is my music. As I said before I lost it all. It just hit me my sister has it backed up on her desktop. So nothing to really worry about i guess. I lost all my NFS saves, so thats dead to me.

Its almost 4:30 and i stayed up all night to try and fix this because I just like windows 7 alot, but its being such a hassel. I've seen other people having the same issues on 7 after upgrading ram or anything like that and then I find people who have no issues doing everything I have done hardware wise.


Sorry for being such a pest, I'll post back tomorrow with any results. Give it a full day should be enough right?
in order not to lose any of my personal data such as music and photos etc I always partition my drive and put all my data into this separate partition , this means that my operating system can do what it likes uninstall crash reinstall and my data will always be safe
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14 Oct 2009   #29
Herox

Windows 7 x86
 
 

Wow i was watching a movie trailer on firefox and seeding an anime on utorrent with pidgin up and got a new bsod, yay. The AV has been removed.
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14 Oct 2009   #30
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Herox View Post
Wow i was watching a movie trailer on firefox and seeding an anime on utorrent with pidgin up and got a new bsod, yay. The AV has been removed.
Another crash which smacks of hardware problems. Physical memory backing the msrpc.sys image does not contain what it should.

I'd suggest you uninstall the 3rd-party firewalls as well. Should BSODs along these lines continue afterwards, it becomes incredibly optimistic to hope for a non-hardware cause.
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