Windows 7: BSOD CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION ntoskrnl.exe after ~1 hour of uptime

OvercastSunburn · 23 Jun 2013

I keep getting the above-stated BSOD after about an hour of normal use (playing unreal or half-life engine based games/minecraft). When the BSOD is about to occur, chrome usually crashes, my start bar no longer works (hovering/clicking does nothing) and my sound either stops completely, or begins to do a low rumble. Other times it goes to a black screen and the windows spinning wheel of doom takes over, and when I can anticipate a BSOD coming, Ctrl-Alt-Del does nothing (probably not a surprise).

I am at wit's end with trying to resolve the issue. I have looked up the error online a bit, and the solutions are much too vague and system-dependent. I have tried to update my drivers (ethernet and sound to realtek's most up-to-date) and I have done the PC-Doctor diagnostics that came with my board, which have told me that nothing is wrong with my hardware. I haven't yet done a chkdsk on my drives yet, but the TB drive will take forever, and the diagnostics tell me that it's fine anyway.

Any advice?

koolkat77 · 23 Jun 2013

Is the firmware for your SSD up-to-date?

Check for one and see if the stability returns.

Disk Check

For errors on your Hard drive(s): How to Run Disk Check in Windows 7

Quote: Originally Posted by usasma

We've seen a number of BSOD issues with SSD's. Here's the information that I've compiled so far:
There's not a whole bunch available to test SSD's. The "easiest" test is to remove the SSD, install a platter-based hard drive, install Windows and test for stability that way.

Here's some suggestions:
- Update the SSD's firmware to the latest available version (VERY IMPORTANT!!!)
- Update the motherboard controllers drivers to the latest available version from the controller manufacturer (NOT the mobo manufacturer unless you can't find any on the controller manufacturer's website). Be sure to update ALL controllers on the motherboard! I STRONGLY suggest not using controller drivers older than mid-2012 with SSD's.
- Slow the memory (RAM) down to the next slower speed (I've only seen one person who claimed that this worked for them).
- Use any manufacturer's utilities that you may have. If you don't have any, then try this free one (I haven't used it myself): Crystal Dew World
....NOTE: Recently (Nov 2011) we had BSOD issues with the Marvell 91xx controller and an SSD. You may have to switch controllers also.
- Replace the SSD with a platter based hard drive and see if that stops the BSOD's. If it does, then it's likely that there's a problem with the SSD OR an incompatibility with your system.
06 Dec 2011 - This post tends to confirm issues with certain SSD chipsets and certain controllers - [SOLVED] cant find the cause of BSOD F4 - Tech Support Forum
05 Jan 2013 - very interesting post about difficulties with the Marvell controllers even when not connected to the SSD drives: Solved Win8 x64 PC reboots when waking from sleep
27 Feb 2013 - I'm starting to see much better reliability with SSD's using current (mid-2012 and later) storage drivers. I have withdrawn my objections to using these devices in everyday systems.

BSOD BUGCHECK SUMMARY

Code:

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.2.9200.20512 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Users\USER\Downloads\OvercastSunburn_23-06-2013\SF_23-06-2013\062313-28750-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: SRV*C:\SymCache*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is: 
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (4 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal
Built by: 7601.18113.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.130318-1533
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`0301b000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`0325e670
Debug session time: Sun Jun 23 09:48:43.313 2013 (UTC + 6:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 1:02:59.077
Loading Kernel Symbols
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Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
.......
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*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa80063e4b30, fffffa80063e4e10, fffff80003397350}

----- ETW minidump data unavailable-----
Probably caused by : wininit.exe

Followup: MachineOwner
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OvercastSunburn · 23 Jun 2013

When I run the Crucial brand firmware updater, it tells me that my firmware is up to date, even though I received this disk as a gift for christmas 2011, and their site lists an update on 04/02/2013. Is this unusual?

Edit: also, I just finished reseating the RAM, GPU, and the HDDs, in addition to all of the power delivery cords. Will report on stability as developments are made.

second edit: just had a bsod again. the problem remains.

essenbe · 23 Jun 2013

You can find your firmware by clicking the start button, type device manager, click on the device manager that appears, expand disk drives, right click on properties. Click the details tab, in the center it will say Device Description, click that and the next entry down is hardware ID, select that. The last numbers on the right will be your firmware. In the screenshot below, you will see I have a Samsung with Firmware DXMO5BOQ. The latest Firmware for Crucial is 070H. If you still think it is the SSD, You can try using Crystal Disk Info, which is pretty much reading the SMART readings, and Koolkat gave you the best advice about installing on another hard drive to see if the problem goes away. Also, unless you changed it, your model shipped with a 250W PSU and Nvidia says the GTX 460 requires a 450W PSU.

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OvercastSunburn · 24 Jun 2013

Quote:

Also, unless you changed it, your model shipped with a 250W PSU and Nvidia says the GTX 460 requires a 450W PSU.

I changed my PSU to a compatible model years ago when I bought the thing and realized that the GTX wasn't going to work without one. Good spot!

Quote:

You can find your firmware by clicking the start button, type device manager, click on the device manager that appears, expand disk drives, right click on properties. Click the details tab, in the center it will say Device Description, click that and the next entry down is hardware ID, select that. The last numbers on the right will be your firmware. In the screenshot below, you will see I have a Samsung with Firmware DXMO5BOQ. The latest Firmware for Crucial is 070H. If you still think it is the SSD, You can try using Crystal Disk Info, which is pretty much reading the SMART readings, and Koolkat gave you the best advice about installing on another hard drive to see if the problem goes away.

But in relation to the issue at hand this screenshot shows that my firmware is either at 0 or at 0002, which is NOT 070H. So the firmware updating tool is not functioning properly? Or, perhaps, my ssd is no longer functioning properly?

I am pretty sure I gave crystaldiskinfo a shot earlier, but I ended up not being able to detect anything because it uses RAID... Is there an alternative to cdi that I can use?

essenbe · 24 Jun 2013

Is your SSD in Raid? With what? If it is in Raid, that is most likely whay you can't update the firmware. There is really little advantage to raiding an SSD. Also, the firmware on your SSD may very well be your issue. Crucial had a bug in their firmware where after, I think 5000 hours of operation, it would frequently malfunction. That was fixed fairly quickly with a new firmware.

OvercastSunburn · 24 Jun 2013

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe

Is your SSD in Raid? With what? If it is in Raid, that is most likely whay you can't update the firmware. There is really little advantage to raiding an SSD. Also, the firmware on your SSD may very well be your issue. Crucial had a bug in their firmware where after, I think 5000 hours of operation, it would frequently malfunction. That was fixed fairly quickly with a new firmware.

I guess I am letting my noob status show here, but what are the alternatives to RAID, and how would I go about changing to one of these configurations? Would it be in the BIOS?

essenbe · 24 Jun 2013

If you have your drives raided, you are not getting full advantage of your SSD. You will need to go into bios and break the raid and reinstall Windows. Before you do that, be sure you back up your personal information to an external drive. With raid there is no other option but reinstall. Once you do that we can guide you to a good install on the SSD. But, you will need to install in AHCI mode. Don't use IDE mode. Once you break the raid, everything you have will be lost, so be sure to back everything up first.

OvercastSunburn · 24 Jun 2013

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe

If you have your drives raided, you are not getting full advantage of your SSD. You will need to go into bios and break the raid and reinstall Windows. Before you do that, be sure you back up your personal information to an external drive. With raid there is no other option but reinstall. Once you do that we can guide you to a good install on the SSD. But, you will need to install in AHCI mode. Don't use IDE mode. Once you break the raid, everything you have will be lost, so be sure to back everything up first.

So assuming I have already backed everything up, and I have my windows 7 install disc, (I will have to make one yet) how do I do a "good" install?

btw, thanks for your help thus far. I really appreciate it.

essenbe · 24 Jun 2013

First please post a screenshot of disk management. Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image
Also, please download AS SSD and post a screenshot, you don't have to run the test if you don't want to. Just be careful about the junk they try to download with it. It is a benchmark test for SSDs. Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums