BSOD from ntoskrnl when explorer.exe is open

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  1. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
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       #11

    Update the display driver to the latest.

    And, Stress test the Graphics Card using Furmark.
    Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark
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  2. Posts : 16
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    Thread Starter
       #12

    PC's recently started doing crazy things again!

    I've got the most recent driver and stress testing seems to be ok.
    I thought it coincided with installed IE11 but I've been using chrome recently and it still seems to have issues.

    Many thanks for any advice as always!

    Ben
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  3. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
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       #13

    Various different BSODs head to head.

    Test your RAM modules for possible errors.
    How to Test and Diagnose RAM Issues with Memtest86+
    Run memtest for at least 8 passes, preferably overnight.

    If it start showing errors/red lines, stop testing. A single error is enough to determine that something is going bad there.

    If memtest does not show any error, enable Driver Verifier to monitor the drivers.
    Driver Verifier - Enable and Disable
    Run Driver Verifier for 24 hours or the occurrence of the next crash, whichever is earlier.

       Information
    Why Driver Verifier:
    It puts a stress on the drivers, ans so it makes the unstable drivers crash. Hopefully the driver that crashes is recorded in the memory dump.

    How Can we know that DV is enabled:
    It will make the system bit of slow, laggy.

       Warning
    Before enabling DV, make it sure that you have earlier System restore points made in your computer. You can check it easily by using CCleaner looking at Tools > System Restore.

    If there is no points, make a System Restore Point manually before enabling DV.

       Tip



    Let us know the results, with the subsequent crash dumps, if any.
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    Code:
    BugCheck 1A, {41284, 7379001, 5469, fffff70001080000}
    
    Probably caused by : win32k.sys ( win32k!SURFACE::bDeleteSurface+3c8 )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
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    BugCheck 24, {1904fb, fffff8800db19ce8, fffff8800db19540, fffff880012a8317}
    
    Probably caused by : Ntfs.sys ( Ntfs!NtfsFindPrefixHashEntry+1fe )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
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    BugCheck 3B, {c0000005, fffff960002ff016, fffff88009847c90, 0}
    
    Probably caused by : win32k.sys ( win32k!RBRUSH::vRemoveRef+12 )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
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  4. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Right, my PC's been doing some odd things which seem to coincide with turning driver verifier on. (been on for a while now because I forgot it was on!! :))
    Hopefully it will point to the culprate!!!
    I've got a feeling it will point to the graphics card again though, the errors don't cause a BSOD but the effect is similar, that horrible glitchy audio of a PC in pain but my screen goes unreadable and wont reset until I restart.

    Many thanks for any advice (as always!).
    Ben
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  5. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #15

    Before checking the dumps, I will ask for the result of memtest 86+. :)

    Because DV applies here only if memtest did not show any error.
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  6. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Hi arc,

    I ran memtest a few time and it didn't show any errors.

    Thanks
    Ben
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  7. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #17

    Checked the BSODs of 17/02 .... they all nor not providing any sufficient information, rather than some hints of memory corruption. Though the memory corruption can be caused by some misbehaving drivers too.

    Enable Driver Verifier to monitor the drivers.
    Driver Verifier - Enable and Disable
    Run Driver Verifier for 24 hours or the occurrence of the next crash, whichever is earlier.

       Information
    Why Driver Verifier:
    It puts a stress on the drivers, ans so it makes the unstable drivers crash. Hopefully the driver that crashes is recorded in the memory dump.

    How Can we know that DV is enabled:
    It will make the system bit of slow, laggy.

       Warning
    Before enabling DV, make it sure that you have earlier System restore points made in your computer. You can check it easily by using CCleaner looking at Tools > System Restore.

    If there is no points, make a System Restore Point manually before enabling DV.

       Tip



    Let us know the results, with the subsequent crash dumps, if any.
      My Computer


  8. Posts : 16
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Ran verifier for a few days and got the same weird glitch screen but without the crash dumps.
    Had a couple of crashes this evening which I think point to graphics again, I've double check and the drivers are definitely up to date.
    There's one that looks like it may be caused by my work VPN software so I've now uninstalled that.
    Not sure what else to try.
    Could this be faulty/incompatible hardware?
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  9.    #19

    I very much doubt it's hardware from what you and Arc have described; it sound like a driver related issue. Mainly because when you've changed a driver version or any other software change it seems to fix it for a while. If it was hardware related it then software changes wouldn't really help, it would also be fairly consistent.
    I'm not saying it's definitely not hardware but it seems unlikely.
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  10. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #20

    So when you enabled Driver Verifier, it did not cause any BSOD at all? And you noticed screen glitches only?

    Your last three crash dumps are all different within a very small period.
    Code:
    BugCheck 4E, {99, 35b4aa, 0, fffffa800a11dfe0}
    
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiBadShareCount+4c )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
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    Code:
    BugCheck 1000007E, {ffffffffc0000005, fffff8800f1ab151, fffff880059b3ef8, fffff880059b3750}
    
    Probably caused by : atikmdag.sys ( atikmdag+110151 )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
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    Code:
    BugCheck 1A, {41284, ef20001, 1d669, fffff70001080000}
    
    Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+4ad3 )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
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    Uninstall your installed latest version of the display driver.


    Then clean up any possible leftover.


    Then install version 13.9 WHQL only.


    Stress test the Graphics Card using Furmark.
    Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark

    How many passes you ran memtest? Run memtest again. Let us see a camera snap of the computer screen when it is completing 8 passes.
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